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Capitalism vs Communism

Discussion in 'The Philosopher' started by Norsemaiden, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. CASSETTEISGOD

    CASSETTEISGOD Homemade Booze & Roadkilled Moose

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    Where do you live?

    Also, attributing roads to socialism is an old trope that needs to die already. Even animals build roads by traveling the same paths over and over until it is compact and hardened.
     
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    WOW i can't believe Einherjar said this once upon a time
     
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    We all have to grow up someday.

    I actually still believe that, but I'd adjust my language. For instance, I wouldn't say that the USSR is historical "proof" of anything; but it's certainly strong evidence against socialist centralization.
     
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    a Bernie-state if it ever happened would be a pathway to totalitarianism according to Ein 2009, seems like a pretty smart guy
     
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    If he still agrees with that but also sees through the current Trump trite then yes, he is indeed.
     
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    Bernie's espoused policies and views were mostly great (he wasn't nationalist enough for my tastes, but he would do justice to the economy and social laws). However, I wouldn't trust him to actually carry out these things. He is Better than Trump and Hillary combined, though.
     
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    Income tax in Sweden, Bernie's utopia, ranges from 31-57%. That's how much they need to tax to provide free healthcare and college and huge welfare benefits. How much would Americans need to be taxed to do the same, with our much bigger population, that is much less healthy and has more poor people? Not gonna happen!
     
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    I like the idea of a flat income tax, at a rate around 30%. Business taxes should be slightly higher, and should further increase based on profits. Certain businesses (banks and insurance companies) for example should be taken over by the government. Other huge corporations who meet certain statistics should be subject to a raised tax as well.

    Banks and insurance companies are practitioners of legalized crime. They have manipulated the law into creating loopholes for them with their money. Fucking sick.
     
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    Yeah fuck insurance, I say do away with all forms of insurance and have everyone pay out of pocket for everything that happens to them (no joke).
     
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    Pair of retards.
     
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    The economy would actually adapt to such a policy, however it would take a long time and cause a lot of destruction in the process. I think that insurance should be done away with in favor of a socialised healthcare system. Banks need to be fucking shoved off of the face of this planet. The same goes for large corporations like Walmart. They attract scum, too.
     
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    - get both the government and insurance companies out of healthcare,
    - have patients only deal directly with doctors and hospitals
    - introduce more competition; make it easier to become a doctor/nurse/surgeon so they will fight for our business by lowering their costs
    - cut down on regulations, licenses, standards, processes, paperwork, administrative shit
    - allow the importation of medicine from all over the world,
    - reduce the amount of time it takes for a medicine to be allowed to be duplicated
    - remove the requirement to help everybody regardless of ability to pay (allow healthcare providers to deny service)

    if we implemented all of the above, healthcare costs would go down by themselves. a lot of the extremely poor will die, and medical accidents / malpractice deaths will increase (temporarily, until people figure out who are the bad doctors, spread the word and put them out of business), but healthcare will become a lot more affordable for those who have some money, even lower-middle / upper-poor class folks

    and private charities of extremely rich lefties, as well as gofundme pages will still exist btw
     
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