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Let's make me a good bassist... tips?

Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by (__Joonas__), Feb 7, 2017.

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    Halo of Blood seems like the easiest Bodom album to hear bass.
     
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    I like to take a CD from my metal shelf and put it in my player, then try to play over it with no power on. So far I've done these albums:

    Something Wild
    Hatebreeder
    Follow the Reaper
    AYDY (half)
    Blooddrunk
    Halo of Blood
    Relentless
    IWC (half)

    Doom VS - Aeternum Vale
    Skid Row
    Swallow the Sun - New Moon

    There so much exciting albums waiting, I aim for one album per day. There's no shortcuts to developing the ear, it's become brutally clear. And gotta dive into learning chords soon.
     
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    You don't really need chords with a bass. Knowing the theory behind them can help in figuring out some stuff but knowing scales should be more helpful I think.
     
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    Yea, I read stuff about chords taking too much sonic space with bass. But I read it's more important to learn chords than scales, as you need to recognize the chords you hear so you know which root note to play or what chord notes to play.
     
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    That's exactly what it's useful for. Problem is that recognizing chords, especially once you get to stuff that are not just normal majors / minors (Add a 7th, a 9th an 11th etc.) and then, to make it worse, start encountering chords were the root is not the lowest note (E G B from down to up would be an E minor. So would G B E and B E G and if some wants to get fancy, E B G etc), is ridiculously hard. Being able to recognize the scale a song goes in and then using that knowledge to figure out what to play is far easier though not quite as useful.
     
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    What I've been doing at times is finding the melody note on the highest string, then jumping two down & two left to find the same note one octave lower... and sometimes from there jumping one down and seven left to go another octave lower... if I can't figure at all what the bass is playing.
     
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    More albums I played along to. All taught me something, but Symbolic was especially useful.

    Swallow the Sun - New Moon
    Mgla - Excercises In Futility
    Death - Symbolic
     
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    What do you mean played along to? You learned all of the songs on them on bass or you just sort of sounded your way through them?
     
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    I described earlier how I discovered a fun way to practice ear and learn stuff, by trying to play over an album. I think this is only possible with bass. Playing albums I've listened to many many times helps. Just following tabs is such a detour, and there is no shortcut to one day figuring that stuff on my own.
     
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    About bassists' low self-esteem about importance in a band, fucking amazing :rofl: 1:40 -> and 2:55 -> fucking epic.

     
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    I get what you mean, but you're also taking a detour by not properly learning the songs. Anyone of any skill level with an instrument can usually sound out a key and plunk along a few notes. I highly advise you to try learning some parts of tabs here and there at least for sake of getting used to things such as changes in riffs and things of that sort. Children of Bodom songs and most melodeath the bass is fairly simplistic, but bands like Death that you mentioned, have very interesting bass and skipping out on learning that material is really only hurting yourself in the long haul.
     
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    44:50 - I tried finger picking on this song, cos I knew it would fit the feeling. Try it out, you can play from almost all around the fretboard. First section is from the highest on the bass and next is the lowest.

    This legendary song takes me back to '99 when this was made, as the theme of this album back then real romance still existed, before it eventually vanished forever due to smart phones / female hypergamy. Today as a man you simply do not exist to women unless you have a supermodel's face. You can hear the pain and euphoria of love on this song, it's the ending track of the album but there's some extra shit on this video. There's male goth vocals and female chants, deep atmosphere and emotion.

    May Satan doom that tragic day when smart phones were invented and romance ripped away from men.

     
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