maybe they're commercial and maybe not all their music is hardcore ,but give this band an hour of listening (especially scream aim fire)and you will find quite a few badass songs and slick solos.Wasn't much of a metalcore fan b4 i heard these guys
so depressing when a band sells out like this ,seen it hundreds of times b4 BFMV ,A7X (know they're both kinda gay now but weren't so bad b4)and now in flames why not deliver what your fans have come to like maybe what pple want is not another whoracle but another album that sounds just as...