Amon Amarth - Deceiver of the Gods
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Nidstang
The Melancholy Spirit
I really enjoy the slight thrash approach to this track
That chorus is just awesome as well
I really didn't expect anything more or less from Amon Amarth
That chorus is just awesome as well
I really didn't expect anything more or less from Amon Amarth
Purveyor Of Evil
Heavy Metal, INC.
AeonicSlumber
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Reminds me of the The Crusher era stuff, but honestly, i wish they stopped going for that ultra polished, fake drums bullshit sound and went in a more raw sounding direction with real drums. It's really turned me off to the band lately and I find myself spinning their older stuff only.
Purveyor Of Evil
Heavy Metal, INC.
The Crusher is my favorite album by AA, actually. I like the polished production because I'm spending my hard earned money and don't want an album to sound like shit. Besides, Andy Sneap has been my favorite producer for years now.
There's a world of gray area between black metal tracked on a Fisher-Price cassette recorder, and various bands and styles sound best at different places in that gray area. Personally, I think the guitars sound good and the vocals are killer, but I agree with Aeonic about the drums - they just sound too processed and clean, and end up lacking power and depth because of it. It's a very subtle thing, and some of it will come down to preference - some people really like that style of drum sound. I don't, especially in the context of death metal.
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There's a difference between polished production and fake bullshit. You may not like Foo Fighters, but even if you don't, pay attention to the production on the last album. Real drums, no samples, no editing, no quantizing, etc. Way better than reamped, sound replaced instruments edited to hell in pro tools.
Also this wasn't done by Sneap. It was done by Jens Bogren right?
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Yeah, because they aren't real drums. The guy records the drums, the engineer edits them to a grid, and then throws samples over all the hits. May as well not even have tracked drums in the first place! They could have just programmed them with Superior or something (and probably would have sounded better haha).
jem777az
Bozzman
No it was done by Sneap. They decided to change it up a bit and use someone else besides Bogren.
jem777az
Bozzman
Sneap also posted this about how the drums were recorded on his forum here on Ultimate Metal.
"cool, glad you guys dig it. I'm always terrified of coming on here when something gets released lol.
the band really wanted a more natural feel to everything this time. As far as the toms go, its the usual 421's on racks, Heil PL30 on the 18" (because I'd ran out of 421's, but it sounded great so I've just got some more) and I also had some of those ukko transducers inside the toms which are blended quite low, but they add a cool cut to the top (they sound very hollow on their own but are great to trigger from).
The best thing for the toms tho was the tunebot, getting them properly in tune just makes them sit right and cut through, I can't recommend that little device enough.
Its also the first time I tried recording drums at the back end of my live room with the far room mic'ed with an old neumann KM86. I don't know why I hadn't tried this before but I was loving the room mic and I think it helps the vibe, especially on the slower stuff. I think Jen's stuff is great but I think it was really important to try a new approach and not worry too much on how things sounded on previous records."
"cool, glad you guys dig it. I'm always terrified of coming on here when something gets released lol.
the band really wanted a more natural feel to everything this time. As far as the toms go, its the usual 421's on racks, Heil PL30 on the 18" (because I'd ran out of 421's, but it sounded great so I've just got some more) and I also had some of those ukko transducers inside the toms which are blended quite low, but they add a cool cut to the top (they sound very hollow on their own but are great to trigger from).
The best thing for the toms tho was the tunebot, getting them properly in tune just makes them sit right and cut through, I can't recommend that little device enough.
Its also the first time I tried recording drums at the back end of my live room with the far room mic'ed with an old neumann KM86. I don't know why I hadn't tried this before but I was loving the room mic and I think it helps the vibe, especially on the slower stuff. I think Jen's stuff is great but I think it was really important to try a new approach and not worry too much on how things sounded on previous records."
I'm not entirely opposed to triggering, there are times that blending triggers with mic'd drums delivers a sound that's superior to either on their own, but far too often, they blend too hard to the triggered side and it sounds like ass.
Although that only covers the sonic side of triggers - when they edit the triggers to fix tempo issues or imperfections, that's not something I'm a fan of at all. When a friend of mine's band was recording an EP several years ago, they let the producer talk them into 'fixing' the kicks and toms on one song to try to sell them on letting him do it for the whole EP. After hearing it, they and I unanimously agreed that it detracted from the overall sound and was a complete waste of studio time.
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I love this kind of stuff because all the effort they went through to do this and get all that gear recorded literally means nothing when everything just gets quantized and sampled in pro tools during the mixdown. There are few things that are dumber than how alot of these bands do their drums.
Purveyor Of Evil
Heavy Metal, INC.
I'm not up on the vocabulary of this stuff at all. I just want the album to sound pleasant to MY ears. Andy Sneap provides this for me.
nomisofsiman
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Sounds good to me. Not their best single ever but good. They're definitely one of the most consistent bands in metal.
KingsGene
God of Thunder
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