Anyone fancy doing a quick A/B of guitar track? Real quick stream...

kev

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Hi guys, just getting used to the functions of the 1010lt now, and im trying two different methods of recording-

The first one is completly dry with the two mics in the nordstrom technique , one fully left and one fully right.

www.omission.fireway.co.uk/KevStuff/Test1L+R.mp3

The other is the two mics again also completly dry, only they are stereo interlinked.

www.omission.fireway.co.uk/KevStuff/Test2S.mp3

See what you think if you've got the time! Cheers.

Edit: cob reckons they could possibly be out of phase, would you guys second that?

Kev
 
For what ever reason they did seem to gel a little better on that second clip....
 
Don't pan your mics, pan your individual performances. For example, if you have 2 guitar performances (a total of 4 tracks with 2 mics), you'd pan both mics of performance 1 left, and both mics of performance 2 right. Pretty good tone you're getting, although I'd suggest isolating your cabinet with some boards and Auralex foam like this. If you put a blanket over the top, make sure you don't cover up the tube grill of your amp (many people wrongfully thought I was doing this because these photos don't show the top clearly enough.) :)

What recording software are you using? If you pan your 2 mic signals to the center and make a stereo file, that's the same thing essentially as a mono file of both signals combined.
 
ok guys, thanks a lot for the repsonses here. I've not checked for the mics being out of phase, which is something im gonn ahave to llok into if i wanna further this sound i guess.

If i record a load of like amp hum (is that what you dudes refer to as white noise?) and then ive gotta line up the the two signals waves peaks and troughs so they look the same. At least that seems to be the jist of what ive read in a few articles so far. :erk:
 
kev said:
ok guys, thanks a lot for the repsonses here. I've not checked for the mics being out of phase, which is something im gonn ahave to llok into if i wanna further this sound i guess.

If i record a load of like amp hum (is that what you dudes refer to as white noise?) and then ive gotta line up the the two signals waves peaks and troughs so they look the same. At least that seems to be the jist of what ive read in a few articles so far. :erk:
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Just use your ear and the 3:1 rule and you should be fine...
 
hehehe.. that is a rad interpretation of metallica. =)

kev.. it sounds like you are trying to get cute with "stereo imaging" or something.

just put an i5 up there and record it proper.

dont eff with 2 mics.. just get ONE sounding beefy.
 
EtherForBreakfast said:
hehehe.. that is a rad interpretation of metallica. =)

kev.. it sounds like you are trying to get cute with "stereo imaging" or something.

just put an i5 up there and record it proper.

dont eff with 2 mics.. just get ONE sounding beefy.
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Thanks for listening dude, in short supply at the moment haha. So you reckon abandon two mics then. Whats stereo imaging all about! and i5?
 
Matt Crooks said:
It sounds like you have too much bass in the sound. The Guitar sounds ok by itself, but there is no room in the bottom for the drums and bass. It will be wicked muddy once you mix it.
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THANKS VERY MUCH MATT ack damn caps lock. so, time to take off some more bass. :ill:
 
I still don't get why you pan the mics. If you use the Nordstrom technique, both mics are supposed to be in the same part of the panorama.
If you double track, then the first take (with both mics) should go on one side, and the second (with both mics once again) should go on the other side.
The Nordstrom stuff is not a stereo recording. Do you get the idea?
I mean, it's not forbidden to make a stereo recording of a guitar, there's no absolute rule, but that's not the point of this technique.
 
~BURNY~ said:
I still don't get why you pan the mics. If you use the Nordstrom technique, both mics are supposed to be in the same part of the panorama.
If you double track, then the first take (with both mics) should go on one side, and the second (with both mics once again) should go on the other side.
The Nordstrom stuff is not a stereo recording. Do you get the idea?
I mean, it's not forbidden to make a stereo recording of a guitar, there's no absolute rule, but that's not the point of this technique.
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Ah. What was originally happening burny was the two mics were being fed into my 1010lt, and automatically one would be left channel and one be right channel. So in effect when i hit the option of stereo interlink, i think it combined the two like you say, although im not 100% sure. Anyway, you cant get stereo from mono :yell:

Anyway, i think i may be jumping the gun a bit for my recording level by trying to record with the two mics, so im gonna revert to one for the time being perhaps, and perhaps keep it on axis or slightly off and play around till i get a decent sound.
 
kev said:
Ah. What was originally happening burny was the two mics were being fed into my 1010lt, and automatically one would be left channel and one be right channel. So in effect when i hit the option of stereo interlink, i think it combined the two like you say, although im not 100% sure. Anyway, you cant get stereo from mono :yell:

Anyway, i think i may be jumping the gun a bit for my recording level by trying to record with the two mics, so im gonna revert to one for the time being perhaps, and perhaps keep it on axis or slightly off and play around till i get a decent sound.
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So when your recorded this it only recorded one mic to the L and one to the R.....if this is the case then you don't have something set up correct.......record one take with two mics (if you still want to use 2) and shove both to the right.....then record another take with two mics and shove them booth to the left.....

on a side note....

I always record with as many mics as I can.......to me I am not good enough yet to stick with one.....by have multiple I will have a few more chooices come mix time.....
 
kev said:
Whats stereo imaging all about! and i5?
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Stereo imaging is the image that you portray to the listener by panning each instrument to diffrent degrees....i5 is a mic....
 
chadsxe said:
Stereo imaging is the image that you portray to the listener by panning each instrument to diffrent degrees....i5 is a mic....
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ah, excellent. Thanks Chad, just confused by the way it was referred to :ill: . I think the second clip where i said about 'stereo interlink' the two mics seemed to sort out the problem of one mic being left and one right. It blurred the two and seemed to sound a little bit better than the other one. I learn so much every day on this forum which is awesome compared to others which go round and round the same circles!
 
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