As Blood Runs Black - Allegiance

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I LOVE this album!

I love the entire sound of the album, only thing i think is slightly lacking is slight low-mid-mid guitar tone, but then again that could have been the artist's preferences. Anyone here heard the album or any tracks and have any comments?

I wonder how they mixed the vocals though. Just did some recording of a band yesterday using an SE2200 for vocals, and it came out very flat indeed. And before mixing, the vocals sound very dry and weak behind the music. Is this the usual case?
 
I can't comment on the production of it, but I honestly hate this band, and all of the others in the "deathcore" genre... all they're doing is stealing deathmetal techniques and claiming them as their own - it's obsurd!

I talk to 'scene' kids at school these days, and the conversations are basically like this:

"Mmm check out the growls over the blast beats - it's so brutal!"

"So growls and blast beats weren't cool when Morbid Angel and Suffocation were doing them back in the 80's?"

"No dude that deathmetal shit is gay."
 
heh.... in 2002 i produced a US blackmetal band called Summon for Moribund Records and the album was titled, "...And The Blood Runs Black"

DSS3, 'scene' kids are gay... in every era the "scenesters" are the gayest little bunch of poofters you can possibly associate with. C'mon, they spend more time "accessorizing" than they do listening to music.

also, while Morbid Angel did write and record an album (Abominations Of Desolation) in the late 80's (though it was not realeased until the mid 90's) and Suffocation had their core original line-up by 1989 or so, neither band was signed to a label and releasing albums and touring until the 90's. the 90's was when the first rise of death metal happened. Death "scream bloody gore" came out in 86 or 87 and got the ball rolling... but the bands and scene that spawned from that genesis had their heyday in the 90's.

btw, just saw Suffocation open for Shadows Fall at the Masquerade in Atlanta, GA a few nights ago (i'm in ATL working with DAATH again) and the core of the original line-up is in place: Terrance Hobbs, Mike Smith, Frank Mullen.... and they DESTROYED that place... awesome display of brutal, precise and utterly compelling death metal played with a magnitude of talent and skill that i have yet to see one single "scenester" band ever come close to. it was great catching up with old friends again as well.
 
hi man
i like this band - sound really great!

but a little bit syntetic - dunno why....
maybe triggered drums or something....
and the sound is really FAT!!!!! i love it!
 
James Murphy said:
heh.... in 2002 i produced a US blackmetal band called Summon for Moribund Records and the album was titled, "...And The Blood Runs Black"

DSS3, 'scene' kids are gay... in every era the "scenesters" are the gayest little bunch of poofters you can possibly associate with. C'mon, they spend more time "accessorizing" than they do listening to music.

also, while Morbid Angel did write and record an album (Abominations Of Desolation) in the late 80's (though it was not realeased until the mid 90's) and Suffocation had their core original line-up by 1989 or so, neither band was signed to a label and releasing albums and touring until the 90's. the 90's was when the first rise of death metal happened. Death "scream bloody gore" came out in 86 or 87 and got the ball rolling... but the bands and scene that spawned from that genesis had their heyday in the 90's.

btw, just saw Suffocation open for Shadows Fall at the Masquerade in Atlanta, GA a few nights ago (i'm in ATL working with DAATH again) and the core of the original line-up is in place: Terrance Hobbs, Mike Smith, Frank Mullen.... and they DESTROYED that place... awesome display of brutal, precise and utterly compelling death metal played with a magnitude of talent and skill that i have yet to see one single "scenester" band ever come close to. it was great catching up with old friends again as well.
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How 'bout that. A death metal history lesson from a death metal legend. Can't ask for anything more.

Suffocation will always remain near the very top of the list of the greatest death acts ever. I remember Scott Burns saying that they were easily the most brutal band that he ever recorded. Terrance is an old friend of mine, too.
 
DSS3 said:
I can't comment on the production of it, but I honestly hate this band, and all of the others in the "deathcore" genre... all they're doing is stealing deathmetal techniques and claiming them as their own - it's obsurd!

I talk to 'scene' kids at school these days, and the conversations are basically like this:

"Mmm check out the growls over the blast beats - it's so brutal!"

"So growls and blast beats weren't cool when Morbid Angel and Suffocation were doing them back in the 80's?"

"No dude that deathmetal shit is gay."
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this guy is feb up with the deathcore bullshit as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0xv2uLwKLI
 
James, I know can't argue with that much of the history (being 18 and stuck in bloody Texas doesn't help my knowledge of the times), but what about Seven Churches from 1985? Wasn't the 'heyday', I know, but I would have thought that between those guys and the increasing popular of Death, Slayer (not DEATH I know, but very important), Napalm Death, et cetera, the late 80s death startup would have been considered more... important, in a way, especially given that in the 90s the melodic death thing from Sweden (At The Gates, I've been told, was formed in 1990) spread around the way it did.

I'm not going to defend the Hot Topic zombies, but at least the 'metalcore' is one hell of a lot better than the pop-punk bullshit, the boy bands, nu-metal, grunge, 80s dance, disco... hey, a few of them can actually play their bloody instruments, that's worth something. I say we take what we can and build on it any way we can - don't mean to say that we shouldn't smack the dumbasses around a bit here and there, but it *is* an improvement (in some sense of the word) over what's happened before.

Jeff
 
JBroll said:
James, I know can't argue with that much of the history (being 18 and stuck in bloody Texas doesn't help my knowledge of the times), but what about Seven Churches from 1985? Wasn't the 'heyday', I know, but I would have thought that between those guys and the increasing popular of Death, Slayer (not DEATH I know, but very important), Napalm Death, et cetera, the late 80s death startup would have been considered more... important, in a way, especially given that in the 90s the melodic death thing from Sweden (At The Gates, I've been told, was formed in 1990) spread around the way it did.

I'm not going to defend the Hot Topic zombies, but at least the 'metalcore' is one hell of a lot better than the pop-punk bullshit, the boy bands, nu-metal, grunge, 80s dance, disco... hey, a few of them can actually play their bloody instruments, that's worth something. I say we take what we can and build on it any way we can - don't mean to say that we shouldn't smack the dumbasses around a bit here and there, but it *is* an improvement (in some sense of the word) over what's happened before.

Jeff
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INJB... I'm pretty old.

Death and Napalm both starting gaining notariety in the very late 80's. The death bands started popping up in numbers during the early 90's and the metal press used the term "Slayer babies" until death metal established itself as a specific movement. The heyday was most definitely in the 90's, because the death sound found it's defining moment during those times. Possessed, Slayer, and the rest of the dark bands were never considered death - although they were certainly the primary influence. As for the "melodic death thing from Sweden", Carcass was from England.

Metalcore blows. Whenever I see little wimpy short hair fags banging their heads with their backs, I suddenly get an urge to take a big 'ol shit.

Nu-metal, grunge, 80s dance, disco > metalcore. For real.
 
Possessed was way more popular in the 90's, after they had broken up than they ever were while they were active. as i said in my first post, the genesis was in the 80's. the heyday was in the 90's.. i was there in both decades. trust me.
 
No, I believe you, I'm just not clear on the history of death metal because there are so many people saying contradictory things - and I always get the impression that no more than a handful of the people who write about the history and chronology of death metal were actually there, so it's bloody impossible to have any grasp of what happens versus what is said to have happened. It would probably help if we had more former Death members speaking up about what really happened in the genre's early days. Thanks for the clarification.

Jeff
 
I didn't know your did that Summon album James. That band is badass. Album sounds great. Otero did one of their albums, which sounded awesome too. I wonder if all their recordings can be traced to this forum.
 
I saw that show, too... and Suffocation ROCKED.

I got my old ass in the pit just to fucking kill those scene kids for awhile while the TRUE asskicking metal was being played.

It killed.

My friend is friends with Poison the Well... nice guys... not fond of their music at all though.
 
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