CERN's Large Hadron Collider experiment

Let's quote Einstein: No mouse would invent a mousetrap - we invented the nuclear bomb.

Yeah let's pay 2 billion euro for our own mousetrap. Sorry but knowing how our universe was created isn't 2 billion euro worth, at least for me.
(Okay according to wikipedia mankind payed 28 billion dollars (todays currency) for the manhattan project - another mousetrap).
 
Anyone who's afraid of this project doesn't, understand science and needs to shut up. It's safe, stop whining
 
I knew that thing, didn't know it was being sued...

Anyway, tl;dr, and science is hard enough to understand, I don't really want to get all that in english. Not that I don't care, but I care too much too only understand half of it.

Inb4: Leandro mindfucking all of us.
 
Anyone who's afraid of this project doesn't, understand science and needs to shut up. It's safe, stop whining

Well, as a scientifically aware person, you cannot deny that there are some real dangers, no matter how unlikely the odds of them occurring are, it's still there. ;)
 
well from my view,its jsut another step for mankind in our accelerated era,whcih is cool cause i also love this sorta science,like one teaspoon of neutron matter is like a few tousand tonnes which is cool and that blackk holes in itself are fuckin dangerous,theoritically cause blakkcholes are not or even barely visible with our telescopes and its all mostly based on equations and theorys,but whats strange is that we know tonnes about space well again theoritically but dont know why ice skates move on ice so smoothly,i really think its amazing they should let the experiments be carried out,but from a humanity stand point and with the theorys of blackholes,even if they are so called microscopic its still insanely dangerous and of the matter thta only has one pole and could lead to a massive chain reaction to other things,so they should do it in some other area,but we cant do that either,but im up for it cause we gotta do itt sometime better now then never,and dont be an american from this article with all the concerns cause in a way yes they should do more testing in other areas that lead up to the main event,but im sure the scientist in these labs know what their doin and the reasoning for the creation of such an amazing piece of machinery
 
Well, as a scientifically aware person, you cannot deny that there are some real dangers, no matter how unlikely the odds of them occurring are, it's still there. ;)

Just the same as the chance of a supernova occuring for no apparent reason in the close proximity(some and 50 lightyears) of earth, or even further a Hypernova, directed at the planet
This would completely sterilize the planet of any forms of life. Really.


There are odds for pretty much anything happening, so i don't see why people should go ballistic over this
 
Well, as a scientifically aware person, you cannot deny that there are some real dangers, no matter how unlikely the odds of them occurring are, it's still there. ;)

Not quite :p

If there were any danger, it would've already happened. Cosmic rays.

And that's all 'mindfucking' I have the time for, I've got three exams this week :erk:
 
Let's quote Einstein: No mouse would invent a mousetrap - we invented the nuclear bomb.

Yeah let's pay 2 billion euro for our own mousetrap. Sorry but knowing how our universe was created isn't 2 billion euro worth, at least for me.
(Okay according to wikipedia mankind payed 28 billion dollars (todays currency) for the manhattan project - another mousetrap).

you're an ignorant prick. it's a good thing not all of us think like you! :oops:
 
Well, as a scientifically aware person, you cannot deny that there are some real dangers, no matter how unlikely the odds of them occurring are, it's still there. ;)

I never thought I would see a resonance cascade...let alone create one.


P.S. I read the title as Hardon Calculator
 
I did my graduation thing on black holes and i read a shitload about that thing (since it could in theory create one, or at least a mini one)
This thing is really fucking important for science and for the survival on mandkind in a way, any risks coming with it are worth it. Sueing it is just as much making the said mousetrap, imo.

(i didnt read the article so if i said anything obvious, baww :lol:)
 
anyone notice how
"Some folks outside the scientific mainstream have asked darker questions as well"

Translates too...

"The people who don't know wtf they are talking about have asked darker questions as well"
 
you're an ignorant prick. it's a good thing not all of us think like you! :oops:
tell me the advantages of it.
To be honest I dont care about our universe was created.

This thing is really fucking important for science and for the survival on mandkind in a way, any risks coming with it are worth it.
it's worth to crush your own planet?
The assumption black holes would break up after their creation (Hawking-bekenstein ration[i dont know the exact translation]) was never proven right or wrong.
Hawking was proven to be mistaken in the past i hope this will not happen again.


The funny thing is everyone admires Einstein and any other scientist even though 98% of those people dont understand any of their theories.
Okay people admire for prophecies without any dates and widely interpretable language.
 
tell me the advantages of it.
To be honest I dont care about our universe was created.

Knowledge. The reason why you have microwaves and computers on your home right now is because someone went out and sought knowledge without trying to find applications for it. It's just understanding. Light up the darkness.

it's worth to crush your own planet?

Can't happen. And not because of hawking radiation. First, technically, the very EXISTENCE of black holes was never proven right or wrong either. I've seen papers argue that an event horizon couldn't be formed in a finite time. Second. Do you have any idea how small the cross section of any of those black holes would be? Let's make a quick calculation.

We collide two lead cores, which have an atomic number of 82. That means the mass of our black holes would be at most 164 atomic units. Then we can find out the radius of a blackhole like that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...q=2*+G+*+164+*+mass+of+proton/c^2&btnG=Search

That's about 10^(-52) meters. Which is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 meters. A single proton has a size of 10^-16 meters (0.0000000000000001). If the black hole were the size of a peanut, a single proton would be several orders of magnitude larger than the known universe. So I'm going to pretend it's the size of a baseball, that'll only make the odds of hitting something better anyway. Now suppose an atomic nucleus is the size of the earth. The distance that separates two nuclei in a typical metal would then be 100 000 000 kilometers. That's more or less the distance between the earth and mercury when they're closest. So if you want your black hole to hit ONE nucleus, ONE single tiny nucleus to increase its mass a tiny insignificant bit, it's roughly the same as standing in mercury, throwing a baseball at random and expecting it to hit the earth. I'll calculate that one for you:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+of+earth^2+*+pi/(4*+1+au^2*++pi)&btnG=Search

about 1 in 10^10.

How about winning the lottery 16 times in a row?

And if you think that's enough, there's MORE. You'd have to hit a LOT of nuclei until the black hole could pose any danger. Let's say, until it could be the size of a proton? That means absorbing 10^12 kg. How many protons is that? Around 10^38. Multiply the above figure for that, you'll get odds of 1 in 10^48, which's winning the lottery...10^39 times. Or, if you prefer, throwing a baseball at a random direction and hitting another baseball...in the andromeda galaxy.

That EVEN IF they don't decay. Which pretty much EVERY current model predicts.

The earth will be fine.
 
Anyone who's afraid of this project doesn't, understand science and needs to shut up. It's safe, stop whining

Knowledge. The reason why you have microwaves and computers on your home right now is because someone went out and sought knowledge without trying to find applications for it. It's just understanding. Light up the darkness.



Can't happen. And not because of hawking radiation. First, technically, the very EXISTENCE of black holes was never proven right or wrong either. I've seen papers argue that an event horizon couldn't be formed in a finite time. Second. Do you have any idea how small the cross section of any of those black holes would be? Let's make a quick calculation.

We collide two lead cores, which have an atomic number of 82. That means the mass of our black holes would be at most 164 atomic units. Then we can find out the radius of a blackhole like that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...q=2*+G+*+164+*+mass+of+proton/c^2&btnG=Search

That's about 10^(-52) meters. Which is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 meters. A single proton has a size of 10^-16 meters (0.0000000000000001). If the black hole were the size of a peanut, a single proton would be several orders of magnitude larger than the known universe. So I'm going to pretend it's the size of a baseball, that'll only make the odds of hitting something better anyway. Now suppose an atomic nucleus is the size of the earth. The distance that separates two nuclei in a typical metal would then be 100 000 000 kilometers. That's more or less the distance between the earth and mercury when they're closest. So if you want your black hole to hit ONE nucleus, ONE single tiny nucleus to increase its mass a tiny insignificant bit, it's roughly the same as standing in mercury, throwing a baseball at random and expecting it to hit the earth. I'll calculate that one for you:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+of+earth^2+*+pi/(4*+1+au^2*++pi)&btnG=Search

about 1 in 10^10.

How about winning the lottery 16 times in a row?

And if you think that's enough, there's MORE. You'd have to hit a LOT of nuclei until the black hole could pose any danger. Let's say, until it could be the size of a proton? That means absorbing 10^12 kg. How many protons is that? Around 10^38. Multiply the above figure for that, you'll get odds of 1 in 10^48, which's winning the lottery...10^39 times. Or, if you prefer, throwing a baseball at a random direction and hitting another baseball...in the andromeda galaxy.

That EVEN IF they don't decay. Which pretty much EVERY current model predicts.

The earth will be fine.
:lol: I read this with a huge grin on my face. Epic schooling.