So does anyone know what the status is on that impulse box DAR amps were developing with Jocke, which was supposed to have much higher quality, and dynamic impulses than what we're using now?
DAR Amps impulse loader box?
- Thread starter Ermz
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Seems odd to announce it then not really follow up. So many folks here would be keen on this thing. I'd happily become an endorsee of the brand and saturate the Oz metal scene with its sound, provided it is what it claims to be.
I was talking with Paul on Facebook the other day, he had said they are ready to go and should be properly released within the next few months(if I recall correctly).
I think I'll be grabbing one, seems like a cool tool to have on hand.
I think I'll be grabbing one, seems like a cool tool to have on hand.
Ola Englund
Only gay in the village
have some faith guys, the products are coming... not just as fast as they initially thought... But they'll be great!
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
I had one back-and-forth with Mike on FB, definitely still in the works and coming soon, just not quite the original "March" release date they anticipated. With any luck I'll be making/posting a bunch of 'beta' clips.
I'd be darned keen to test-drive one. I'm moving all my reamping work in-house, and this would be an invaluable tool, if it comes up with the goods.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
Isn't the preamp going to be the same thing as the impulse loader, just with a preamp built in?
I'm curious as to why you guys wouldn't just buy the preamp. You essential would get the impulse loader like you wanted, then a badass Dar preamp for $300 bucks.
Sweet deal to me, unless you just don't like the sounds we heard already.
I'm curious as to why you guys wouldn't just buy the preamp. You essential would get the impulse loader like you wanted, then a badass Dar preamp for $300 bucks.
Sweet deal to me, unless you just don't like the sounds we heard already.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Hey guys, here's the deal: Paul was eager to tell the world what we had planned. He did. Mike (who builds/designs the gear) had a bunch of amps to build that was already ordered. He has. When those were built, he started on the FBM-100 (the most basic) head. It's done now, and we'll do the final voicing/tweaks within the next couple of weeks. The technology used in all products will be from the same "family" and they're being developed as we speak, but since Mike is one person, he can only work 60 hours/week before he does a murder/suicide episode. 
Just kidding, but you guys are smart, so you know what I mean.
We have a collection of a couple of hundred IR's that we're going to sort and use in the "jockebox", but it'll take some more time. It doesn't help that we live across the globe, and that we're working with our bands and other stuff to pay the bills.
Have faith, people. The gear will be something very special. Take my word for it.
/Jocke
Just kidding, but you guys are smart, so you know what I mean.We have a collection of a couple of hundred IR's that we're going to sort and use in the "jockebox", but it'll take some more time. It doesn't help that we live across the globe, and that we're working with our bands and other stuff to pay the bills.
Have faith, people. The gear will be something very special. Take my word for it.
/Jocke
Any chance you'll get around to doing some demos for us, Jocke? When you do finalize the unit, that is.
i'd be happy about a little explaination about the 10000 thing, what is it exactly 10000 samples?
the axe-fx can handle "only" 1024 sample IR files IIRC so is there just a differnce in lenght or
will there be some secret extra sauce going on?
cheers
S.
the axe-fx can handle "only" 1024 sample IR files IIRC so is there just a differnce in lenght or
will there be some secret extra sauce going on?
cheers
S.
To my understanding its a bandwidth/accuracy thing. Where normal impulses will currently 'average out' the frequency content across a fairly wide bands, rather than depicting each frequency exactly as it was, the new impulses are much truer to the original, recreating more of the nuance.
At least that's my very layman understanding of the subject, of course open to corrections. All the same, I'm very curious to hear the benefit it can bring to the table. There wasn't much mention of 'dynamic' impulses, but I believe that is one of the design goals, Jocke? You hope to sample the cab at multiple amplitude levels and try to recreate dynamic cab behavior as well?
At least that's my very layman understanding of the subject, of course open to corrections. All the same, I'm very curious to hear the benefit it can bring to the table. There wasn't much mention of 'dynamic' impulses, but I believe that is one of the design goals, Jocke? You hope to sample the cab at multiple amplitude levels and try to recreate dynamic cab behavior as well?
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Jocke, will we be able to create/load our own impulses using this technology, or will it strictly be a "use what's included" type box? I'm confident that I'll like a few of them out of the "couple hundred" you've done, but it would be nice to be able to store my own chain in there!
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
I guess length would not be useful, plus, it's not a technical problem. It's just a cab impulse is certainly (stop me if i'm wrong) not that long. It's only the image of the response of 1 dirac input, it's not likely to be much longer than that.
As Ermz say, I guessed from what I understood it could be more a "definition", a "resolution" increase. Since most ppl complain about the unrealistic fizz, high end, "scrthhschh" sound that comes with the digital domain, maybe increasing the frequency/bandwith of the impulse will make high end closer to reality because these are precisely the frequency on the spectrum that get close to the impulse freq/bandwith (I don't know how much time does 1024 samples represent). If there is a way for the impulse loader to read those 10000 samples as fast as our current 1024 samples impulses are loaded, the increase of precision in the high frequencies would be augmented, closer to a virtual "perfection" since the human ear couldn't, maybe, make a difference. This would be a little like the retina display on iphone 4 : a double of resolution that gets close to the human eye maximum ability to distinguish "pixels". I guess a "retina 2" would be the last step since it's already hard to distinguish iphone 4 pixels.
If then you could have layers of impulses chosen depending on the amplitude of the input, the dynamic response would be closer to reality as well since cabs are not likely to be linear. I remember some tried this on Nebula but failed cause it induced a frequency or phase problem in the end that wasn't solved. But that would be awesome.
The only last step would be implementing secondary effects that I don't know (resonance ?) but this would be only the last % of increase of quality and would need much more CPU power. I haven't done signal treatment theory long enough to know other stuff than all that.
Dunno if that's what DAR is based on but that would be awesome. Maybe they found something better.
Had to bump this thing again.
Any word on the state of progress? We're getting close to the end of the year now, and to my knowledge the FBM amps are close to rolling out. Has any of the workload shifted onto the impulse box?
Any word on the state of progress? We're getting close to the end of the year now, and to my knowledge the FBM amps are close to rolling out. Has any of the workload shifted onto the impulse box?
Fifth_Horseman
Watch out, it's sharp!
No real updates on the DAR facebook page for the last few weeks, since they posted pics of the head. They also still haven't launched their new website which was promised to come some time ago (along with new product photos).
I have an FBM-PX preamp pedal on order, but I got in on the second run, so it will be some time until it's here anyways. Originally the second run was supposed to ship out in September. But the first run was supposed to be finished in August, so I'm not holding my breath.
I have an FBM-PX preamp pedal on order, but I got in on the second run, so it will be some time until it's here anyways. Originally the second run was supposed to ship out in September. But the first run was supposed to be finished in August, so I'm not holding my breath.
