Well, i was there for the detroit show too. They played an awesome set. 1000 points of hate was awesome to hear live. I had a photography pass for the show, but didn't know the lame rule on only taking pictures next to the stage during the first 3 songs only. Pissed me off, but oh well, what can ya do. Saw the guys before the show at the signing at rock-a-billys. Frank, John, Charlie, and Rob were really friendly..... anyway, great time had by all.