Drum Help !

[Skyweaver]

Getting a decent drum sound has always been a mystery but thought I'd keep chipping away at it for interests sake, this is the second hack a trying to get a decent drum sound, any tips would be great

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7412398/Drums.mp3

 

[Ermz]

Needs moar balls!

 

[Skyweaver]

lmfaooo yeah I thought it was missing something - Balls never leave home without them !

 

[oroinvictus]

Ermz pretty much nailed it. Needs more meat, more punch, more balls. The drum sounds themselves sound great, I think.

 

[Skyweaver]

Ermz pretty much nailed it. Needs more meat, more punch, more balls. The drum sounds themselves sound great, I think.

thanks Cory, your both right - its finding that "Balls" plug-in...I think thats the hardest part working out how to give it balls...I'll keep chipping away at it

 

[oroinvictus]

Personally, I think a little compression and EQing on each piece could take the kit farther, or even doing that to the kit as a whole. Throw some guitar and bass in with it and see how it all gels.

 

[Skyweaver]

will add some bass and see how that goes - I'm just trying to learn how to get a decent drum kit first...you know instrument by instrument

 

[Ermz]

What are you doing as a starting point? A lot of the time when you've hollowed out the drums to stop being muddy, they also start to sound a bit thin. This is normal with raw drums! You compensate for it by slamming ridiculous amounts of lows back into them.

The low-shelf is your friend!

Sorry I'd be more specific, but I gotta get back to writing this guitar mixing tutorial.... its getting much bigger than I thought.

 

[Skyweaver]

What are you doing as a starting point? A lot of the time when you've hollowed out the drums to stop being muddy, they also start to sound a bit thin. This is normal with raw drums! You compensate for it by slamming ridiculous amounts of lows back into them.

The low-shelf is your friend!

Sorry I'd be more specific, but I gotta get back to writing this guitar mixing tutorial.... its getting much bigger than I thought.

mate its all good, I've been asking my mrs "having you seen my balls" it's was pretty funny here, today

Thanks for the tip, I'll fiddle around with it for another year or so and eventually get there

All the best with the tutorial, it will be awesome

 

[Skyweaver]

had another go at it, hopefully this is closer with a bit more balls than the first attempt, fun to play around and learn with Drums

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7412398/Drums_1.mp3

 

[Shaun Werle]

I did some processing on the first mp3 you put up and converted it to WAV. I know it's a compressed file already but i thought if i did some of my usual drum bus stuff it would sound sick and i think it does. Tell me about these drums i really like them, mics, room your in, processing

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5865601/Drum Proccessing.mp3

did this in literally 5 mins

 

[Shaun Werle]

My opinion would be slam these drums hard. Do you have samples of this kit because i would love to toss some of these samples into one of my mixes and see what happens. Also i am trying to get some natural drum tones myself, and the drums sound awesome, they just lack the processing to get them fuller. Some details would help. I own a nice kit but my mic selection is not great

 

[Skyweaver]

The main tom mics were samson mics + 421 for the floor
Snare was a sm57
Overheads were Sonys
Kick I cant recall but I know it wasn't a D6

The desk was Harrison

There was no processing on the recording

I've got some raw tracks I can share, I didnt get single hits though which was really stupid..

I'm really happy with the raw tone, I'm just learning a bit about how to process drums for the metal tone, I've got producers that can do all that, its just a learning exercise for myself, one which I'm really enjoying the journey of just learning....but for final product I'll leave that to the professionals

 

[Shaun Werle]

Throw a room mic in there, or two room mics. Room mics will really bring everything to life

 

[Skyweaver]

Throw a room mic in there, or two room mics. Room mics will really bring everything to life

thanks will give it a crack