Einsturzende Neubauten

[The Grimace]

I mentioned them in the 'band name' thread, just got me thinking. Anybody else happen to be a fan? Heard 'em once? Know of their existence?

Today I've listened to the second 'Strategies', 'Halber Mensch' , 'Kollaps', and a double-live album from 4 or 5 years ago, all in a row. I'm not sure how I'm still alive or sane, but luckily...

 

[no country for old wainds]

I know of them, I'll try them at some point.

 

[Perdition's Light]

Always wanted to listen to them. I hear pretty much nothing but praise for them.

What's a good place to start anyways?

 

[The Grimace]

What's a good place to start anyways?

It depends on how brave and open minded you are. If not much, then start with their later albums, mainly 'Silence Is Sexy' and 'Tabula Rasa'. If you're really adventurous, get the first 'Strategies Against Architecture' disc or their debut album 'Kollaps'. Their earliest recordings feature nothing but power tools and sheet metal and chains and oil drums and shit for instruments, and the occasional broken guitar. And all the while, Blixa screaming his scarred lungs out in German. I still don't know what his deal was... the heroin, I guess, but it's very frightening.

If you want a good middle ground album to start with though, get 'Halber Mensch', it's still dissonant, ambient, and kinda unsettling like the early stuff, but the beats are more 'normal' for lack of a better word and there's significantly more discernable melody, plus it's just a lot less noisy, more song-oriented, than the early stuff. The title track and 'ZNS' are in my top 5 E.N. songs.

I'd really reccomend you start with 'Strategies' and go chronologically forward like I did, so you get an appreciation of their overall mission statement. But if not then all their albums are brilliant. Even the newest one 'Perpetuum Mobile' is amazing, something I can't say for more than a few 20+ year-running bands.

BLIXA BARGELD = Top 20 musical revolutionaries of the century. Up there with Brian Wilson, Richard James, Varg (yes!), Sid, Eno, the boys from Radiohead... I swear I'm gonna make that list some day...

 

[sumairetsu]

Thus far, the only band who graces my body in tattoo form. I was disappointed to learn that I was going to miss their only performance in Los Angeles for the Perpetuum Mobile Tour this past May because I was performing with my school's guitar ensemble at the same time the band was hitting the stage. Definitely a great band to watch on stage...it's always fun watching how the band makes their special brand of tunes (name me another band that uses a turbine from a jet plane engine to get tones!).

Neubauten, however, can be a difficult pill to swallow, especially their earlier, more "Industrial" material (like other pioneers of the Industrial music scene like Non and Throbbing Gristle). I'd go with the recommendation of starting with the Strategies Against Architecture CDs for those just getting started. Most people told me to start with Strategies 2, but I went straight with Strategies 1. With that album, you'll get half of Kollaps and you'll also probably get a completely cleared out room when people hear the first song.

As to material that is not on compilations, my personal recommendation is Tabula Rasa. It was with this album that the band really hit their stride and the 15 minute epic, Headcleaner, is a lot of fun (especially if you ever get the chance to see them live).

 

[Hell Mike]

They fucking suck, fuck off the crappy crap shit.

 

[Life Sucks]

Shouldn't this be in the Non-Metal forum? Anyways, I haven't heard much by them, but I was quite into industrial music at one point.

 

[Jaar-Gilon]

listening to some right now, for the first time. this is some strange shit. its the first song of Kollaps (the grimace wouldnt let me start with the more accessible stuff first ahaha)

 

[The Grimace]

Shouldn't this be in the Non-Metal forum?

E.N. is heavier, louder, and more intense than fucking N*Flames or Bodom or half the shit people love around here. So no.

Anybody who digs Einsturzende, or any really angular, nasty music, check out a band called Sutcliffe Jugend. They're on my short list of the most seriously unpleasant music I've ever heard, up there with E.N., The Swans, Merzbow, a few others. And they're certainly the most hateful. This guy's lyrics make Chris Barnes sound like a feminist, every song is about rape/murder or either one separately or any combination of other horrible things, and it's basically distorted talking/screaming over top of grinding industrial noise and ambient rumbling that rarely has a particular beat or pattern. Often it just sounds like a single over-over-overdriven guitar feeding back into eternity with a phaser or wah-pedal on it. As a long time fan of extreme music, I can easily say they're in the running for most extreme band of all time.

And if you can find 'Mindshaft' by the band Bodychoke, a really obscure album which features members from Sutcliffe Jugend, pick it up as well, it's much more song-oriented though much less hateful (it's still pretty hateful), for those who get a bit uneasy at hearing the words "cunt" and "cock" 6 or 10 times in every song as Sutcliffe is known to do.

 

[The Grimace]

They fucking suck, fuck off the crappy crap shit.

Shit off you sucky fuck crap, or something.

 

[Hell Mike]

I hate this kind of crap because it sucks, that's my input like you may have noticed. Some kids banging on radiators with hammers and shit, oh the avant-gardeness! And they STILL managed to get gayer through the years, that's impressive!

And it is certainly NOT metal, so move this to the non-metal forum.

 

[The Grimace]

I hate this kind of crap because it sucks, that's my input like you may have noticed. Some kids banging on radiators with hammers and shit, oh the avant-gardeness! And they STILL managed to get gayer through the years, that's impressive!

Nothing much to add here, other than you're a fucking stooge. But then the whole idea of good experimental music is that lame ass little kids aren't even supposed to understand it, much less enjoy it. They want you to hate them, and not take them seriously, and whatever. Only non-lame individuals can appreciate the brilliant work of other non-lame individuals.

And it is certainly NOT metal, so move this to the non-metal forum.

It's industrial, which is a big part of modern metal. You're wrong. Shut it.

 

[Hell Mike]

It's industrial, not industrial METAL. And oh how satisfied those half-haired fudgepackers should be when they find this post and get to know they have succeeded in their quest to make me hate them.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

check out a band called Sutcliffe Jugend.

YES. Sutcliffe fucking RULES. When Pornography Is No Longer Enough is a GREAT album. Have you heard Navicon Torture Technologies?

 

[The Grimace]

...those half-haired fudgepackers...

Is English not your first language, by any chance?

When Pornography Is No Longer Enough is a GREAT album.

Now listening to "First Victim - WITH KNIFE - Left to die with many cuts". So very, very angry. Hahaha. "Nobody knows you're here! Nobody can hear you! Now do as you're told! Your weeping won't help!" And of course the famous "GET ON THE FUCKING TABLE! AHHHH!" Hehehe... The kind of shit that would terrify even the most 'extreme' metal fanboys. I love Sutcliffe.

Have you heard Navicon Torture Technologies?

I for some reason never have, I always see their (his? I don't even know...) shit in some of my leet music freak friends' collections, but nobody's ever recommended anything to me. What's good?

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Now listening to "First Victim - WITH KNIFE - Left to die with many cuts". So very, very angry. Hahaha. "Nobody knows you're here! Nobody can hear you! Now do as you're told! Your weeping won't help!" And of course the famous "GET ON THE FUCKING TABLE! AHHHH!" Hehehe... The kind of shit that would terrify even the most 'extreme' metal fanboys. I love Sutcliffe.

I WISH YOUR MOTHER COULD BE HERE TO SEE THIS! Awesome shit. So extreme.

I for some reason never have, I always see their (his? I don't even know...) shit in some of my leet music freak friends' collections, but nobody's ever recommended anything to me. What's good?

Argh such a good act. It's one guy. He's really fucking mallcore looking (...) but his music (anti-music...?) is pure fucking audial terror. Get the Church Of Dead Girls double CD. Power electronics with misanthropic, romantic, and just really fucking hateful lyrics (vocals are mixed low, mainly unintelligible screaming).

Awesome lyrics from 'The Gates Of Hell Open To Reveal Shiny White Skin':

My corpse soars bleeding into the abyss of lost love.
I shriek in fear, covering my eyes with my forearms, forcing the winds of change away from my face.
In the deep distant bowels of the earth, I see the flames dance upon the fleshy, womblike walls of this endless tunnel downward which expands around my broken soul, taking me in like a flaccid cock, tightening around me, pulsing and lubricating from the heat of my body.
I am forced further downward by an intricate system of muscular contractions, faster and harder as I go deeper.
Finally, I arrive at my destination: a huge, cavernous pit of endless fires, consuming the helpless wailing forms which writhe in agony, calling out to an empty sky for mercy.
I fall into the ocean of burning bodies and I cry out in joy as I am engulfed by eternal flames, my fleshly sins burning away like the flesh of all of these suffering masses.
I melt into the wailing dead, and join them in their songs of divine retribution.

 

[The Grimace]

{lyrics}

I'm gonna get that today, and sit around and hate my ex.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

I'm gonna get that today, and sit around and hate my ex.

Oh trust me, Leech has a TON of misogynic songs. They're all equally awesome, too. Here's one of the more straightforward ones:

MY INSIDES ARE ROTTING AWAY
AS I GROW FAT FROM THE SALT OF SUCKLING INSECTS.
I TAKE A FISTFULL OF YOUR HAIR
AND HAMMER AWAY AT YOUR FRAGILE SKULL,
CRACKING YOUR JAWBONE INTO PIECES.
THEN I SMASH YOUR FINGERS SO YOU CANNOT
TORMENT ME WITH WORDS.
THE INSECT SWARM SHALL RISE UP
AND DEVOUR MY FLESH
AS I PENETRATE YOU FOR THE LAST TIME.

 

[The Grimace]

Finally got 'Church Of Dead Girls' today, I've been listening to some of the unreleased mp3s on the website, actually almost all of them (there's a lot!), but that album is better than all of it. I need to get some new speakers to bring out all that low hum stuff, now it's just kind of a pulse, but I'm sure it would sound wicked on big bassy speakers.

Massive thanks for the reccomendation, I can tell this will be one of my favorites.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Finally got 'Church Of Dead Girls' today, I've been listening to some of the unreleased mp3s on the website, actually almost all of them (there's a lot!), but that album is better than all of it. I need to get some new speakers to bring out all that low hum stuff, now it's just kind of a pulse, but I'm sure it would sound wicked on big bassy speakers.

Massive thanks for the reccomendation, I can tell this will be one of my favorites.

Indeed. Repetitive trance-inducing lo-fi noise/sample loops + distorted screaming + samples = awesome as fuck.