Guitar Tone Feedback

[metalhead3ecr]

I tried to implement a similar setup to what was used on the master of puppets album.
Any advice on the guitars would be greatly appreciated!



My favorite guitar part is around 6:10 to the end of the song.

 

[metalhead3ecr]

Is it that bad? Not enough mids? too woofy?

any help is appreciated:Spin:

 

[Zerochance]

I think it's pretty dead on. Some of the little lead fills sound like they're panned slightly to the right, which is somewhat distracting, but if you were going for a MOP vibe, you're on the right track.

 

[Daybreak]

There's some AWFUL resonance going on in the 100-300 Hz section (possibly higher, would prolly need to have an EQ in front of me to tell you exact frequency..) that messes if up. Notch that sucker down.

 

[metalhead3ecr]

Yeah, the panning might not be balanced correctly in some spots. But thanks for the feedback! I can work on that next time

 

[metalhead3ecr]

I have been troubleshooting that resonance. I think it only occurs when I play higher frets on the 5th and 6th string. The intro for example is all up around the 12th fret...bass gets weird. But I find the resonance to minimize itself when playing lower registers.

I could be wrong... Did you hear the resonance throughout the whole tone?

 

[Daybreak]

EDIT 3: There. Finally got it to work with Copy.

Okay, so I actually downloaded the file to show you what I mean...

https://copy.com/j4CCWYYuhrg6

There I put an EQ with a pretty wide Q at 150 Hz, and made a drastic cut. Kind of takes the life out of the guitar, but IMO sounds more open and better that way. I also automated the EQ so it goes on and off, so you can hear the difference. I think it's a really good tone in itself, it's just that awful resonance that's messing with it.. Have no idea what exactly is causing it. How did you record this? What's your chain? Post processing etc?

 

[metalhead3ecr]

Well Done! I see what you mean and I totally agree. While it sounds thin at first, when you bypass the EQ it makes me hate the original sound and all its woofy lowend. Plus with the cut you made, a bass guitar would fill that gap nicely.

As far as a recording chain, here is what I can remember.

Mesa Boogie Mark III Redstripe 100watt head
into a 2X12 with Greenback 4201 cones and a 4X12 Mesa with V30's
only the 2X12 was mic'd.
I used four microphones.
An off axis 57 about two inches away
An off axis Cascade Fathead on the same speaker two inches away
An Audix D6 on the back of the cab (it's halfway open)
An Omni measurement mic out in front of the cab (about 4 feet)

The woofy mess might be coming from the fact that I recorded three separate performances.
Left,Right,Middle
Which could easily overpower the palm mutes.

As far as in the box chain, just some panning and bussing.

 

[Daybreak]

My first instinct would be standing waves in your room causing it - If so I would suggest moving the amp around in the room, or simply moving it to a different room and try to re-record it. While triple-tracking may be enhancing the problem, I don't think it's the source.

But it's probably easier for you to just troubleshoot your chain than me sitting here guessing! As I said, it's a really good tone in itself, just get rid of that woofyness and you got yourself a kickass tone. : D