Guitars with Michael Wagener vid

[006]

Kinda neat:

http://en.audiofanzine.com/homestudio/medias/a.play,m.7030.html

Enjoy

 

[GuitarHack]

Thanks for posting. I wish placing a 57 was that easy.

He places the mic's easy, but seems to struggle with the torch.

I would kill to see Andy do a Vid like this.

 

[kev]

Thanks Mike, Im watching the other Wagener videos too now! Gee, those ribbon mics seem to bring the smoothness.

 

[006]

Yeah I'm surprised that is all he is using are ribbon mics, generally they are darker mics than your usual suspects. But I guess Wagener kinda knows what he's doing...

 

[AudioGeekZine]

It's an ad for Royer mics but there are some good things in the vids.

 

[derfbonker]

What was the point in using 2 of the same mic, in the same position on the cab?

 

[egan.]

What was the point in using 2 of the same mic, in the same position on the cab?

Different speakers--I wondered too but he says it first thing when he's back at the board.

 

[ahjteam]

I wish placing a 57 was that easy.

Actually, it is

Yeah I'm surprised that is all he is using are ribbon mics, generally they are darker mics than your usual suspects.

And he even uses the Crane song tape sim which dulls it down even more, and I understand the choise totally... Who wants to hear those +10khz fizzes in guitars?

What was the point in using 2 of the same mic, in the same position on the cab?

see 2:15 forward

 

[Ben Johnson]

Are the other parts of this video somewhere?

EDIT: nevermind

 

[Sly]

He uses the Chandler TG2 pre, I have one and if you push the input quite hard you'll get more bite, should work well with the Royers

 

[Machinated]

pretty cool vids, would be cool to hear how those drum mics sound on their own.

surely thats more royers than one person/most studios will have though?!

 

[ahjteam]

surely thats more royers than one person/most studios will have though?!

kick, hihat, ride, overheads, room and ambience mics. I don't think thats too many, considering that some studios have even more Neumanns that cost three times the price.

 

[AudioGeekZine]

Different speakers--I wondered too but he says it first thing when he's back at the board.

Think he does that instead of double tracking? Is that kept in mono?

 

[KeithRT99]

He uses the Chandler TG2 pre, I have one and if you push the input quite hard you'll get more bite, should work well with the Royers

I can attest to pushes the tg2, it's a good way of getting some girth. Also royers sound really good through a tg2.

 

[chonchball]

Think he does that instead of double tracking? Is that kept in mono?

Remember when he flipped the phase to test their relationships? If he used the two speakers for "double tracking" instead of actually double tracking, it would phase out in the center when flipped L and R.

See the thread about stereo guitar recording techniques (that everyone thinks I'm wrong about )

 

[Melodeath]

What? Flipped L and R? Panning doesn't change phase.

Where are the other parts of the vid?

 

[AudioGeekZine]

What? Flipped L and R? Panning doesn't change phase.

Where are the other parts of the vid?

nah, he makes sense.
He set them up for optimal phase correctness, if he panned them hard and it was ever summed to mono the guitar would disappear.

there's two drum videos on the site too.

 

[Machinated]

kick, hihat, ride, overheads, room and ambience mics. I don't think thats too many, considering that some studios have even more Neumanns that cost three times the price.

it wasnt really meant in terms of how much they cost, after all with some studios the cost of another royer is pretty insignificant. its more to do with how much use they are likely to get.

granted, if i was in said studio, sure id use a couple of royers but certainly not as exclusively as this 'sales pitch' video has. most studio gearlists i see tend to have about 2/3 of these mics, and probably get on fine with that.

 

[AllanD]

Are the other parts of this video somewhere?

EDIT: nevermind

A youtube video

Damn those cymbals are sugary! Nice and dark, I wish I could afford Fatheads .

 

[Melodeath]

nah, he makes sense.
He set them up for optimal phase correctness, if he panned them hard and it was ever summed to mono the guitar would disappear.

Of course. I'm responding to chonchball. I thought he was saying you can't use two different speakers instead of double tracking, as they would "cancel," which isn't true.