Havok new release March 28

Before anyone else says it, I would like to further amend my post and say that Hair/Glam Metal could definitely beat Thrash in the record/ticket sales war, that is if you consider them metal. I don't consider Motley Crue, Poison, Cinderella, Bulletboys, etc... to be metal bands. Hard rock yes, metal no. So, if you consider them such, then sure, they would probably trump Thrash in this sense, but personally, I don't consider them to be metal.

I've always thought the same. And I've always hated the label "hair metal." It's probably about the dumbest genre name out there. But yes, it is definitely hard rock.
 
This album totally slays!!! Gets my vote for thrash album of the year!! THRASH TIL DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually think I like Burn a little better. This one is more aggressive, but it is missing some of the two guitar counterpoints and melodic solos Burn had. Do I still like the release ? Hell yeah, but I don't think I will like it as much as the debut. It is still early though.


Bryant
 
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. While sure, there isn't a thrash band out there that enjoyed the success of Iron Maiden or Judas Priest (save for Metallica), the sheer volume of tickets and albums sold by the top thrash bands have far eclipsed the top bands of other metal genres. I implore you to find me 5-10 bands from each sub-genre of metal that have outsold the likes of a combination of Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Testament, Exodus, Megadeth, Kreator, Suicidal Tendencies, Sepultura, etc... I'd put those bands sales up against the sales of any group of metal bands from the same genre (save for Nu-Metal, as I already mentioned, but has since, not completely died, but definitely dwindled.)

Brent

I agree and let's not forget Pantera which definitely went thrash on "Cowboys From Hell." They were a big draw. There were a bunch of thrash bands around in the late 80's - early 90's until the bottom fell out of metal.


Bryant
 
Seriously, I'm saying this in March. It's a great album and I didn't know we had a timeframe. Should I wait til Dec. to make this claim?

I'm just saying that claiming anything as the best of any year when less than half the year is over has always been absurd to me. Like I said, I'm not trying to diss you or anything and am glad you love it, but for me, I always have to wait until at least the beginning of fall before I label a disc as "best of the year."
 
I'm just saying that claiming anything as the best of any year when less than half the year is over has always been absurd to me. Like I said, I'm not trying to diss you or anything and am glad you love it, but for me, I always have to wait until at least the beginning of fall before I label a disc as "best of the year."

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here. Sometimes you just know when a release really hits you the right way, and that there isn't going to be anything to match it.

I also take back what I said about this not being as good as "Burn." It is missing some elements that "Burn" offered, but it makes up for it in other elements. This CD is fucking insane !! It makes me feel 23 years old again.


Bryant
 
I will allow this thread to melt into the oblivion after this reply, but after MANY serious listens.......... this CD is fucking awesome !! This band is going to be hard to beat as the king-in-waiting of thrash.


Bryant
 
Creatively it died around 1991. It was never particularly popular to the extent of a Maiden or Priest. Metallica saw the writing on the wall and became mainstream. Slayer etc need package tours to book arenas. Nu Metal came and also died a quick death.

Contradiction. You cannot say "creatively it died" and then make your points based on record/ticket sales. You can say that commercially it may have died as metallica started losing the thrash influences and Slayer, Megadeth, and Testament may not have been putting out their most Profitable material, but creatively, thrash did not die. You just have to dig deep.

Anacrusis came out with Screams and Whispers in 1993
Sabbat from Japan came out with a slew of great albums in the 90s post '91
Invocator came out with Weave the Apocalypse in 1993
Aura Noir came out with Black Thrash Attack in 1996
Destroyer 666 came out with Unchain the Wolves in 1997
Disaster came out with A Touch of Midieval Darkness in 1996 and Hellfire's Dominion in 1998

And many others. My point is that CREATIVELY thrash never died, but you are correct that it was at it's commercial heyday in the 80s. And to dismiss the new thrash Bands in the 2000s based on that point is very unfair. Sure the new wave thrash bands aren't selling out arenas, but there is some damn good music coming out of that scene....

And Havok are one of those at the forefront.
 
This is one of the best discs of the year. I have spun it to death. Thrash has never died, went underground with a lot of indie bands carrying the flag and now has resurfaced with bands like Havok and Evile etc. Thrash is metal perfected to me. :flame::kickass:
 
I found out that the Postmorem/Raining single is on itunes. I've never used that - so when you buy something from there - is it downloaded as an mp3 format or the crApple format?