Help making a mix sound fuller

[kickinwing65]

I have a quick mix from my band's new song. Its not the most recent recording, there are parts missing and I didn't quantize the drums yet. I'm trying to work on my mixing skills a bit, any advice to make it sound more full, if you know what I mean. It just seems really flat

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/851092/Unloved And Forgoten.mp3

 

[Unavailable]

Guitars sound pretty lifeless and small. I think working on that would be the place to start.

 

[Harry Hughes]

Guitars sound a little muffled to me, they need more presence to give more of an impression of air. It wont make the guitars sound bigger as such, but the effect can really make a mix sound more full.
Where have you low passed the guitars?

 

[kickinwing65]

I'd have to check the session again, right around 60 i believe

 

[Harry Hughes]

If you low passed your guitars at 60Hz, I doubt you'd hear much at all dude

Low pass is the one you set to tame upper frequencies, it's HIGH PASS that you set for the lower frequencies

 

[Unavailable]

I'd have to check the session again, right around 60 i believe

I hope you're not low passing at 60.

But yeah, it will really breathe some life into the mix if the guitars don't sound so muffled.

 

[kickinwing65]

yea, its late and im retarded. the low pass is at 10k

 

[AEL89]

Try hi-passing a lot higher - around 120. I'd also try a small lo-shelf boost on the bass guitar - maybe 2dBs at 100 and roll off at around 35.

You might benefit from a hi-shelf boost on the guitars too - 2dB at 8k...I picked that little tip up from here and tend to use it if the guitars aren't present enough after lo-passing.

Also, I'm hearing a lot of flamming...have you lined all your drums up with the triggers? Or have you got the plugin still on the track?

I think it could sound really good with a little bit of work though mate!

 

[kickinwing65]

Alright thanks for the advice, yeah the plugins are still loaded, I haven't bothered fixing all the drums because there are a few changes so I'm going to re-record it next week sometime. this was basically a demo to hear the new song we had.