How to protect CD player from shocks live?

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Hi,
maybe someone of you has an idea how I can protect a normal CD player from vibrations and schocks for live use.
I know there is discmans with antischock and so on...
The drummer just need his CD player (for clicktrack and playback) which he can operate pretty good ;)
So, at the moment we are just using a pillow and it works, but maybe there's a better solution.
Next week we have the gig.
If someone wants to come and can help me, he will get a place on the guestlist :)


www.ragnaroek-festival.de
Friday:Time Line Up
14:40- 15:10 DAWN OF BLOOD
15.30- 16.10 FJOERGYN
16.30- 17.10 SYCRONOMICA
17.25- 18.05 WOLFCHANT
18.20- 19.00 KOLDBRANN
19.20- 20:00 HELHEIM
20.20- 21.00 VREID
21.20- 22.10 MANEGARM
22.30- 23.30 KAMPFAR
23.45- 00.45 TAAKE
01.00- 01.40 URGEHAL

Saturday: Time Line Up
12:30- 13:00 HELFAHRT
13.15- 13.45 KROMLEK
14.00- 14.35 HEIDEVOLK
14.50- 15.25 MINAS MORGUL
15.40- 16.15 GERNOTSHAGEN
16.35- 17.10 BLACK MESSIAH
17.30- 18:10 HEL (that's my band ;) )
18.30- 19.10 ELUVEITIE
19.30- 20.10 CRUACHAN
20.30- 21.10 TYR
21.30- 22.10 SWALLOW THE SUN
22.30- 23.30 MOONSORROW
23.50- 00.30 RIGER
00.50- 01.30 AASKEREIA
01.50- ENDE VARG
 
The drummer needs to get both tracks mono, and only one channel has to go to the stagebox.
I build an adapter construction, but that wasn't really reliable, and starts so scratch whenever you touch it and it was 5000 cables and adapters...
So, I tried my best with that. Besides the drummer needs to program tracks, so that the next track doesn't start while he is playing and so on.

We will use the CD player, and I just want to know if there is an idea to protect him from the vibrations :goggly:
 
Put the CD player in a large Ziploc bag, fill the rest of the bag with air, seal it very tightly around the cables and duct tape around the wires that have to be sticking out, and put it in a large container of water. The container of water will stay on the ground, it'll vibrate but the water won't impart nearly as much 'shock' to the CD player in the bag (which should be floating away from the bottom, if it is not then tether it with string), and your problem is solved.

Jeff
 
www.ragnaroek-festival.de
Friday:Time Line Up
14:40- 15:10 DAWN OF BLOOD
15.30- 16.10 FJOERGYN
16.30- 17.10 SYCRONOMICA
17.25- 18.05 WOLFCHANT
18.20- 19.00 KOLDBRANN
19.20- 20:00 HELHEIM
20.20- 21.00 VREID
21.20- 22.10 MANEGARM
22.30- 23.30 KAMPFAR
23.45- 00.45 TAAKE
01.00- 01.40 URGEHAL

Saturday: Time Line Up
12:30- 13:00 HELFAHRT
13.15- 13.45 KROMLEK
14.00- 14.35 HEIDEVOLK
14.50- 15.25 MINAS MORGUL
15.40- 16.15 GERNOTSHAGEN
16.35- 17.10 BLACK MESSIAH
17.30- 18:10 HEL (that's my band ;) )
18.30- 19.10 ELUVEITIE
19.30- 20.10 CRUACHAN
20.30- 21.10 TYR
21.30- 22.10 SWALLOW THE SUN
22.30- 23.30 MOONSORROW
23.50- 00.30 RIGER
00.50- 01.30 AASKEREIA
01.50- ENDE VARG



OMFG, I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO THAT FESTIVAL, GREAAAAAT BANDS :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :kickass: :kickass: :kickass:
 
Ive had this problem doing live recordings from Front Of House with my laptop. The best and simplest thing Ive found was to put a hoody underneath it.

THe other example that come to mind is that when I was house teching at a venue and we held drum and bass nights I had to find a way to have the bass heavy music stupidly loud without the decks feeding back. Basically with put the decks on paving slabs which were isolated from truss with bike inner tubes. Ball ache to set up but it worked.
 
Unicorn said:
The drummer needs to get both tracks mono, and only one channel has to go to the stagebox.

We will use the CD player, and I just want to know if there is an idea to protect him from the vibrations :goggly:
Click to expand...

I KNOW THAT you dont want hear about it but.... :Smug: I need to be a smart ass anyway :p

If you use a splitting cable : mini stereo jack --> 2 normal jack mono, you then have separated your click and your playback.

so then plug the playback track into a di-box. the DI output goes to the mixer
and the SEND output of your di-box goes to you drummer monitoring, along with the clicktrack.

You dont need a 2 outputs device to do this. a regular stereo output and a active di-box is enough. so a mp3 player is ok. and much safer and reliable. plus if you have a little mixer, your drummer can make his own monitoring mix with click, playback+ guitars.

it's the best solution. but go on with your cd-player if you want anyway.
 
Thanks guys!
It just came to my mind that I have and old 12-track Akai DPS12 recorder/mixer that I could use for this.
I'll see what will be the best.
The idea with the DI sent is pretty nice btw. ;)
 
Unicorn said:
Hi,
maybe someone of you has an idea how I can protect a normal CD player from vibrations and schocks for live use.
I know there is discmans with antischock and so on...
The drummer just need his CD player (for clicktrack and playback) which he can operate pretty good ;)
So, at the moment we are just using a pillow and it works, but maybe there's a better solution.
Click to expand...
didn't you learn this lesson from Ashlee Simpson?... never use CDs li.... li.... li....li......li......li......li...ve

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Yeah an iPod is the way to go for sure. iPod Nanos are cheap and have a nice display so you can scroll right to your mix, etc. No moving parts!

My band uses a PowerBook to run our click live, mainly because we also have some MIDI control stuff going on, plus an in-ear monitor mix that's run through our MOTU Traveler's CueMix analog stage.
 
Just wanted to tell you that I used a DAT recorder for Playback, and the concert was pretty good :)
The only thing about the DAT is that it's so slow when skipping and so on.
 
We had the same problem in my band (Souldrainer). We even tried a cheap disco CD player that died everytime our drummer hit the snare, we threw that shit out. After that we used a Mini Disc Player and some of those models can pause between songs, but not this one. It was also a shit load of work to put the tracks to the MD, but thats cuz it was old and didn't have USB.

We then started to use a iPod Mini and worked just fine until we heard that the clicktrack bleed into to backtrack. We came around that by using the iPod Dock that have a Line Out in form of a Mini Tele.

The iPod + Dock is still the best alternative we've got. The only thing we miss now is a function to pause between songs.
 
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