How's this as reference?

[Krank]

The 'Godsized' track.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec09/articles/metalaudio.htm

 

[-Noodles-]

not a fan.

 

[Krank]

not a fan.

I don't really like the track, but the production sure is loud and punchy to my ears.

 

[timislegend]

meh... it sounds a bit unfinished.

 

[-Noodles-]

production sure is loud and punchy to my ears.

..but not to mine, which is why I said "not a fan".

 

[pikachu69]

OK, here is the link containing both articles from SOS about metal production from December '09 and January '10 in PDF format.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10584477/SOS guide to mixing extreme metal.rar

I have also included the audio tracks in MP3. They pretty much sum up everything that has been said on this forum already but it is a good read and there are color photos too.
It is free to view on the SOS web site so im sure I can share this here.

 

[Krank]

..but not to mine, which is why I said "not a fan".

What do you use as reference for something along this groove-based style?

 

[-Noodles-]

I don't use references, unless I am mastering (which is simply for RMS levels).

Why mix to a reference which has been mastered? The sonics can be vastly different - so, as I see it, there's very little point in trying to mix something against a reference.

Each band is different - and unless they're a dead replica (eg: AC/DC & Airbourne) then I'm never going to try and match the dynamics and sound of a record.

I make records that sound like they're done by me (for better or worse).

 

[Krank]

Other opinions? I'm interested in what people use as reference tracks.