HPF and/Or Scoop On Drum Bus?

[Kaptain K. Rool]

I'm curious, Usually I high pass 45 on the kick. I heard recently that i should high pass the Drum bus at 50 Hz; And that I should Scoop from 270-400 on the Bus dependent on the Kit.

Any truth to that?
(I know whatever works is fine, but does that work for you?; for your workflow is that something that you like to do?)

 

[Kaleb Formz]

Where do you find yourself scooping the most on your bus, I feel like 380-400

 

[RedDog]

^ too broad of a question. I don't have the same room as you and we don't track in the same environment. Entirely source dependant. when it comes to my drum bus, I find myself dealing more with saturation and compression to give the kit the glue. All my filtering is done on individual channels.

 

[Kaptain K. Rool]

Thanks man I'll make sure to try a pultec! Lol I was about to ask the same thing, I'd say 350-400 where it gets kinda boxy I guess it depends on the kit.

 

[waltz mastering]

^ too broad of a question. I don't have the same room as you and we don't track in the same environment. Entirely source dependent.

+1. I'd forget about HPF or scooping smiley face eq formulas. Every source is different. ..better to trust what you hear from the monitors than have a preconceived agenda.

 

[Daybreak]

RedDog just summed up what I wanted to say. And, don't know really what is "common practice", but I usually don't have my highpass set as high as 50 Hz on my kick drum.

 

[Kaleb Formz]

I understand. I just don't mic up any kit. Can't afford it and don't have the room for it. So I'm just using slate stuff and soon LSD cause those drums sound great! But if I'm using the "go to" pieces for metal on slate then my kit is pretty much not really gonna change except for cymbals maybe. What then what be a good and/Or common frequency to scoop on the buss? I only ask cause I know more than Likely a ton of us here are exclusively using slate. Not to say a lot of people here aren't, or using slate and other samples.

 

[JeffTD]

I HPF on individual tracks and generally don't on the bus, but I do the low-mid scoop sometimes and the 1-3khz "this is fucking with the vocals" scoop a lot. Multiband compression can also be great here.

 

[Alphanumeric]

All done on individual channels really, maybe if you just want to be safe yeah HP below 50 if your kick is lower than the bass. I do no eq'ing on the drum bus except for whatever my Tesla saturator adds or Bad Bus Mojo. If you are using a bus comp it may help to high shelf a little with the cymbals to get the dynamics back in.

I would have thought taking out the low mids a little would separate the kit further rather than glue it? Try run it through one of the Slate Consoles or Sonimus Satson if you want it too glue and soften the mids.

 

[Machinated]

i love low end boosts on busses. brings everything up together and gels better a lot of the time IMO. especially on mix bus, but also drum bus. im usually cutting mids on the drum bus and boosting a low shelf.

 

[gallilleo]

I usually filter on each channel...haven't tried it on the bus...but then I always tweak the channel eq and compression most of the time.

 

[if6was9]

I usually try to apply the cuts to the overall channel. I'll often play with an EQ on the bus to help isolate problems. For example if I find a mid cut gets rid of mud and improves the mix I'll apply that to the kick/snare/toms instead of on the bus.
I rarely high pass my drum bus, I'll apply filtering to all the individual channels and maybe the master bus if it's a project I'm mastering. 50hz seems a bit high but it all depends on what it sounds like.