I can't believe I'm making one of these threads, but...

[He's Dead, Jim]

how do I get a snare like this ITB.



It's dry and seems to lack any pingy resonances, but it's also very full, which is my everlasting frustration with snares- you notch things out to make it clearer and it loses all its weight. Is it just the tuning, mic placement, or just careful blending of room mics into the tone? I've spent a really long time trying to replicate it in Superior but I just can't get anything even remotely close. :'( I have no problems making your average, thwappy, beastly metal snare, but this sounds much more natural.

edit: skip to 2:30 or so, since the intro is a bunch of djenty clean bullshit.

 

[Supra1]

In that example I think the room play a big part of it. But the be honest im interested in the answer of others i've never acheived a sound like this.

 

[indecizo]

I'd just use SD Avatar's snare rimshots and play with the velocities, that rodgers wood snare sounds close.

Without compression

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28110505/untitled1.mp3

With compression

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28110505/untitled2.wav

 

[JeffTD]

Lotsa room and OH in that snare sound. Lots and lots of room.

 

[anotherpaul]

I find it funny that listening to this record 10 times a day I was so immersed in music that didn't really pay attention to production. It just fits the music so good and that's the way it should be done.
Drums are very roomy and overheady as Jeff said, but still quite precise and articulate.

 

[Heabow]

Nice snare indeed, I love it! I have a good bunch of different Ludwig Black Beauty snare samples which sound "similar". Don't remember where I bought them tho.

 

[Machinated]

there will certainly be ones in the toontrack libraries that fit the bill, check the higher tuned ones. try making the drums sound as close as possible using just the OH and room mics - the key will be in picking the right sets to use. the close ones will work better for this snare sound but you may want a little bit of the distant ones to get some more decay.

so ideally you want to do as little as possible processing wise, but gradually start bringing in the close mics to compensate for what's missing from the rest. do as much as possible with volume and if frequencies start poking out when you're 100% sure the volume is good, just deal with those.

it might be an idea to send just the snare to an ambience mic that's fairly close to the kit and compress it with a fast release, then blend that in.

it's easy to assume that you can get the entire snare sound out of the close mics, but really close mic's are an exaggerated version of how things sound that actually sound pretty strange on their own compared to how instruments really sound. if you blend the close mics into the room mics rather than the other way round, you'll get a more natural sound.

I can't stress the importance of doing as much as possible with just a volume fader - the less you have to do the better and more natural things will sound.

 

[He's Dead, Jim]

Thanks for all the responses! I seem to be getting decent results with the Sonor snare in Metal Machine and a loud, less-smashed room track. I usually cut almost all my overhead snare bleed out, so once I introduce that back in it should add some weight and mids.

 

[Deadstar]

I would go for Avatar NY sessions 3 ( the whole kit). 5,5 x14'' Nir Z high tuned snare is just the sound you want. Here's a quick export:
https://copy.com/lkXUIkWVH4wechCr

 

[He's Dead, Jim]

I would go for Avatar NY sessions 3 ( the whole kit). 5,5 x14'' Nir Z high tuned snare is just the sound you want. Here's a quick export:
https://copy.com/lkXUIkWVH4wechCr

Shit, that does sound pretty close haha. I'll have to check that SDX out.

While I'm at it, any ideas on the snare for The Way of All Flesh? It has this inhumanly tight, clear quality that I also have no idea how to create I suspect some of that might be from the mic choices, but I have no idea.

 

[Deadstar]

i think Slate is the best fit for that kind of snare. blend blackbird and CLA expansion snares and you'll be there in no time.
Avatar NY sessions 3 has also some of the best toms I ever heard