I was suprised when I saw this pic....
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rubthebuddha
New Metal Member
Sorry....he's...wearing...ha ha ha...a....ha ha ha....Watchtower...hahaha shirt? I didn't notice at first, as I was too busy laughing at his mullet.
Dude looks like Joe Elliot in his prime.
Dude looks like Joe Elliot in his prime.
Atheist
Who'r u calling a Junior?
NeverMarty
Awaiting Mathematics
There's a few more pics of him with a WT shirt on. He was a fan back then, and they got Doug to try out for bass when Cliff passed away, but picked Jason over him of course. I got the feeling from Doug he wasn't too interested in taking the job anyway. Just as well, since Metallica were on the downslope by then already (and never came close to anything as interesting as WT ever released).
nicosanchez
Crazy Tech Prog Member
Correct me if i'm wrong, I think the Watch Tower bio mentions very good relationships between Metallica members and WT, even with Jason Newsteed before entering Metallica.
Well, no offense to Doug or anybody, but if you've heard Flotsam & Jetsam's first disc, you'll understand why Jason was chosen. That guy had monster chops. Doug is fantastic, but I enjoy Newsted's playing on Doomsday more. Then again, Metallica probably chose him more because he could be more easily bullied into taking a background role in the band. I'm just rambling now... I'm tired.
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NeverMarty
Awaiting Mathematics
jimbobhickville said:
Heck, musically Jason was a much better fit. I was stoked when he was picked for two reasons: Doug staying in WatchTower and the hope it gave me that Jason might be able to give Metallice a much needed kick in the butt with his writing skills. Of course the latter never happened. Doomsday was one awesome Thrash record, and in the end I was sorry F&J never quite reached that level anymore and Jason languished in the throttling grip of Lars and James. O well, at least WatchTower went on to make one more masterpiece. I'd still argue Doug is a far superior bassist, but I don't think he'd have fit in with Metallica at all - which Doug indicated he felt even before trying out already, anyway. Now I just wished they'd feel the urgency to get Mathematics done, that it deserves. There's way too little interesting new metal being produced, but hopefully Ron can make up for the lack of Mathematics to some extent with Blotted Science...
zlogdan
OLD metal head
Well, I have the F&J LP and I was surprised to hardly hear Jason on "And Justice For All". It was a little better to watch them live in 1989 and hear Jason, but Metallica didn't ever allow Jason Newsted to play music like he could do. That said, I rather enjoy Doug's playing than Jason, but I agree that Jason was a better choice. It is just that after "And Justice For All" Metallica has never released anything really great IMHO so I guess they didn't need an actual bassist if they ( Kirk, James, Lars ) would not allow this new guy to replace Cliff in fact. It would have been better to have a paid bass player for the tour and have one of them to play the bass in the albums
rubthebuddha
New Metal Member
I seem to recall the final decision coming down to Jason, Les Claypool (at the time in Blind Illusion) and Kevin Seconds (from Seven Seconds). Recall that Metallica were just really on the cusp of success, having just toured with Ozzy. There was really no way to tell of their pending musical decline. In retrospect with Cliff gone, Dave Mustaine's ideas gone and Kirk fresh out of ideas to steal from Gary Holt of Exodus, I guess it was inevitable. Jason should have provided that spark but they never let him. I remember an article whereby the other members ragged him incessantly about being Jason Newkid for over a year.
My greatest disappointment was that Jason either didn't or was unable to find a way to get Flots into a supporting slot touring with Metallica since the styles were so compatible. Flots is/was a great band that deserved much more success than they received.
I always hold out a glimmer of hope for Metallica with each new release, and I'm always ultimately disappointed. I fear that not even Rick Rubin can pull any good tunes from them at this point in time.
My greatest disappointment was that Jason either didn't or was unable to find a way to get Flots into a supporting slot touring with Metallica since the styles were so compatible. Flots is/was a great band that deserved much more success than they received.
I always hold out a glimmer of hope for Metallica with each new release, and I'm always ultimately disappointed. I fear that not even Rick Rubin can pull any good tunes from them at this point in time.
Hmm... the only thing I'd heard about Les Claypool was that he auditioned and the band thought he was too out there for them. Didn't know he made it into the final consideration.
jimbobhickville said:
A bit out of the subject here, but I saw Les Claypool's name and this sprang to mind : a guy by the name of Lester Claypool recorded and mixed Yngwie Malmsteen's first album. Can anybody confirm if it was the same Les Claypool ?
zlogdan
OLD metal head
According to the liner notes in the album, the guy who played the bass was Malmsteen him self...
nicosanchez
Crazy Tech Prog Member
zlogdan
OLD metal head
nicosanchez
Crazy Tech Prog Member
I assume that there aren't many Lester Claypools in the music business.... so he is probably the same guy.
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