Interesting Tony Moore interview

[SickBoy]

http://www.fullinbloom.com/riot_tony_thundersteel.html

The things the man said there explain the lack of success with the two monster albums they did with him... Damn industry!

 

[poundingmetal74]

Cool interview.

Musicians getting screwed by producers and labels, now there's a shocker! Damn shame though.

 

[SickBoy]

Cool interview.

Musicians getting screwed by producers and labels, now there's a shocker! Damn shame though.

Someone said (I think it was Tony Iommi) "after you've learnt your third chord you better get yourself a damn good lawyer"

 

[poundingmetal74]

Someone said (I think it was Tony Iommi) "after you've learnt your third chord you better get yourself a damn good lawyer"

Yup. The one thing nobody seems to get is that a record deal isn't free money, it's the equivalent of a bank loan. Any videos, etc. come out of your pocket which are paid back through CD sales.

Confessions of a Record Producer scared the hell out of me when I read it which is why I'm very weary of labels and anyone asking for money.

 

[Wyvern]

Yup. The one thing nobody seems to get is that a record deal isn't free money, it's the equivalent of a bank loan. Any videos, etc. come out of your pocket which are paid back through CD sales.

You said in another thread that music industry is dying because they hadn't put their shit together and CD sales are going down. So that means that in the not so long run bands will have to do it all by themselves since a label can't help at all?

 

[poundingmetal74]

Oh a label can help - if you're going to be a sucessful band like, say Avenged Sevenfold. If you're going to be a band like, say, ASKA or Final Stage or something, a label won't do much for you.

Plus, at the end of the day, I own all of my music.

 

[Wyvern]

Oh a label can help - if you're going to be a sucessful band like, say Avenged Sevenfold. If you're going to be a band like, say, ASKA or Final Stage or something, a label won't do much for you.

Plus, at the end of the day, I own all of my music.

Let's go by numbers:

1. Avenged Sevenfold
2. Final Stage is WAYYYYYYYY better than Aska or many hype bands out there.
3. How much control of your compositions a label can get (I guess here's is where the lawyer enters after the third chord)? What amount of the intelectual property laws cover you? Are songs subject to be patented or something like it? It's a subject I always wanted to know more from a reliable source.

 

[poundingmetal74]

[*]How much control of your compositions a label can get (I guess here's is where the lawyer enters after the third chord)? What amount of the intelectual property laws cover you? Are songs subject to be patented or something like it? It's a subject I always wanted to know more from a reliable source.[/LIST]

I'm still learning about this myself. Because we've had our music pressed, recorded and a number of witnesses to confirm it's ours (other than Gods of War, but the recording is ours) we're safe if somebody tries to steal our music and claim it as their own.

When you sign deals, part of it (which screwed CCR, and many others) is publishing. Essentially that the songs you wrote become someone else's property. Hence where the lawyer comes in to (supposedly) prevent you from getting screwed.

 

[Wyvern]

When you sign deals, part of it (which screwed CCR, and many others) is publishing. Essentially that the songs you wrote become someone else's property. Hence where the lawyer comes in to (supposedly) prevent you from getting screwed.

So publishing is a essential part of the legal issues that must be cleared on the contract. Nice to have learnt a bit more of the business, thanks.