"irfc" or "ifc" codes? Mastering question(i think)

[brianhood]

I had a band that is on Outerloop Management call me today asking if i knew how to put an "irfc code" into their cd(an ep i tracked and mixed). Their management was requesting it.

They were unsure of what exactly they were asking for or if that was even the correct code. It may have been a bit easier if they could have forwarded an email from their management.

But anyways, i had no idea what they were talking about. Anyone else know?

 

[MetalJonesy]

i'm sure they were talking about the IRSC codes

programs like sony cd architect can do a direct dump of the info for you when compiling a cd:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/369408/CD.txt

Its lead in and out times of songs, duration, notes etc

http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/isrc_handbook.pdf

 

[timislegend]

it's called an ISRC code...

ISRC

it is primarily for royalty collection but i have seen them used to track streaming content with major labels like warner/emi/umg/sony ...but typically cpc streaming codes are referred to imageID/DTI or performance ID.


it's fairly simple to implement.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Its lead in and out times of songs, duration, notes etc

http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/isrc_handbook.pdf

Actually, it's not. ISRC codes are for identifying the songs. When a radio station, for example, plays a song, the ISRC code of the song is read, which then allows the correct artist to get paid for radio play.

As said, all the well-known master burning applications can implement ISRC codes into CD's. I use Bias 6, but there are other popular choices such as Wavelab and Waveburner.

In practice, it's easy. When you're burning the master CD, you just copy-paste the provided ISRC codes for each song (this is important, the album doesn't have a code, but each song has an individual one) and that's pretty much it.

i'm sure they were talking about the IRSC codes

programs like sony cd architect can do a direct dump of the info for you when compiling a cd:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/369408/CD.txt

This is a cue sheet, not ISRC codes.

 

[MetalJonesy]

my apologies, but the cue sheet also shows ISRC codes (if you have registered the songs with whichever licensing in ur country) that CD of mine obviously hasn't got any as i didn't license the songs. i know your right though Jarkko

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Yup, the codes would appear in the cue sheet, too, if they were present

But anyway, if the band's management asked it, they will provide you with the codes.

 

[brianhood]

Yup, the codes would appear in the cue sheet, too, if they were present

But anyway, if the band's management asked it, they will provide you with the codes.

ahh i see. So basically their management just wanted me to burn a master with the ISRC codes they provide?

they got picked up after recording with me, so this is why it was brought up well after the recording was done, i guess they wanted to add the codes for retail or something.

 

[joeymusicguy]

ISRC codes are for identifying songs

its how royalties are tracked

if a master is made without ISRC codes, there is no way to accurately track anything for money purposes, titling, digital info, etc..

 

[JeffTD]

Question on these; would a band who is not signed but is releasing a CD on their own want to pay the registration fees and obtain ISRC codes for their songs, or would it not matter until they're picked up by a label, who would obtain the ISRC codes for them?

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Question on these; would a band who is not signed but is releasing a CD on their own want to pay the registration fees and obtain ISRC codes for their songs, or would it not matter until they're picked up by a label, who would obtain the ISRC codes for them?

It's never a stupid idea. A producer code costs less than 100 euros up here, and it's a one-time purchase. You can keep track of the running ISRC numbers and them to the songs, but you don't have to report them to the organization that deals with the royalties (Teosto and Gramex here) until it looks like the songs are picking up attention.

 

[JeffTD]

Ah right. I'm just thinking that on our first release, we're going to be collecting 100% of the 'royalties' as a group anyways, since it was self produced/recorded/distributed/etc. Might be something to look into down the road a bit, though.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Ah right. I'm just thinking that on our first release, we're going to be collecting 100% of the 'royalties' as a group anyways, since it was self produced/recorded/distributed/etc. Might be something to look into down the road a bit, though.

Just get it. I just re-checked it and I confused the price with Teosto membership free. getting your own producer code (which you can use for the rest of your life) costs 25€ here, which is practically nothing. It also comes in handy if your going to sell the songs digitally.

Here's the IFPI's knowledge base on ISRC: http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_resources/isrc.html

You can also contact RIAA, which handles ISRC on your end.