Is it February 20th yet?

I think the end records r shipping their orders of the cd out on the 15th :)
 
Anticipation is a bitch, eh? I've already had a couple of my friends try to get me to DL it from them. I refuse. "Oh it's awesome you MUST hear it!". Yes, I have no doubts that it is phenomenal and I guess listening to it wouldn't hurt since I have my order in for it. I dunno, I just have this thing. I don't want to hear it until it's released. Besides, it's kind of nice getting all hyped up over an album and ripping it open when you finally do get it. I wanna look at all the artwork and the words and such while I listen to it for the first time. :)
 
Anticipation is a bitch, eh? I've already had a couple of my friends try to get me to DL it from them. I refuse. "Oh it's awesome you MUST hear it!". Yes, I have no doubts that it is phenomenal and I guess listening to it wouldn't hurt since I have my order in for it. I dunno, I just have this thing. I don't want to hear it until it's released. Besides, it's kind of nice getting all hyped up over an album and ripping it open when you finally do get it. I wanna look at all the artwork and the words and such while I listen to it for the first time. :)

I feel the same way. :kickass:
 
I'm confused...

So, is The End shipping on the 15th, meaning that we'll get it before the 20th? I'm a pre-order noob.
 
Anticipation is a bitch, eh? I've already had a couple of my friends try to get me to DL it from them. I refuse. "Oh it's awesome you MUST hear it!". Yes, I have no doubts that it is phenomenal and I guess listening to it wouldn't hurt since I have my order in for it. I dunno, I just have this thing. I don't want to hear it until it's released. Besides, it's kind of nice getting all hyped up over an album and ripping it open when you finally do get it. I wanna look at all the artwork and the words and such while I listen to it for the first time. :)

Preach on Sister Lioness!

Ken
 
Anticipation is a bitch, eh? I've already had a couple of my friends try to get me to DL it from them. I refuse. "Oh it's awesome you MUST hear it!". Yes, I have no doubts that it is phenomenal and I guess listening to it wouldn't hurt since I have my order in for it. I dunno, I just have this thing. I don't want to hear it until it's released. Besides, it's kind of nice getting all hyped up over an album and ripping it open when you finally do get it. I wanna look at all the artwork and the words and such while I listen to it for the first time. :)

I used to feel this way. When I got my first MP3 player, this changed.

I find that my first listen to any CD is on my MP3 player. The only place I use my CD's anymore is the car (and once I find a good way to play my MP3 player there, I won't need them there anymore). For that reason, I don't have any problems downloading the music before release. The "hype" is still there for me. I know months before that the CD is coming, and I know when it's expected date is, so my anticipated date to hear it is always the release date. When I find it for download early, I actually find myself excited that it was available and I have the chance to hear it early. When I buy a new CD, I no longer "rip it open and play it right away". I actually wait until I get home and rip it to MP3 before I play the CD.

That said, I still love opening the package and looking through the booklet. I like when companies include mini-catalogs of other CD's available from their label (I have discovered new bands that way). I always enjoy physically acquiring the CD and adding it to my "collection". There is still no substitute for owning the original item.

At least for me, the "anticipation" is still satisfied if I download 2 weeks early or wait until I get the physical CD...

((And "yes", I placed my pre-order for the new ND two weeks ago...))
 
I used to feel this way. When I got my first MP3 player, this changed.

I find that my first listen to any CD is on my MP3 player. The only place I use my CD's anymore is the car (and once I find a good way to play my MP3 player there, I won't need them there anymore). For that reason, I don't have any problems downloading the music before release. The "hype" is still there for me. I know months before that the CD is coming, and I know when it's expected date is, so my anticipated date to hear it is always the release date. When I find it for download early, I actually find myself excited that it was available and I have the chance to hear it early. When I buy a new CD, I no longer "rip it open and play it right away". I actually wait until I get home and rip it to MP3 before I play the CD.

That said, I still love opening the package and looking through the booklet. I like when companies include mini-catalogs of other CD's available from their label (I have discovered new bands that way). I always enjoy physically acquiring the CD and adding it to my "collection". There is still no substitute for owning the original item.

At least for me, the "anticipation" is still satisfied if I download 2 weeks early or wait until I get the physical CD...

((And "yes", I placed my pre-order for the new ND two weeks ago...))

I can understand your feelings on this. I suppose it all comes down to a matter of preference and just being able to accept the whole MP3 revolution. For myself and others I'm sure, it's still a hard pill to swallow. I like what you said about the mini-catalogs contained in the CD packaging as I have discovered other acts through those myself. It's just another thing that the music industry needs to figure out before everything goes into complete "download mode" only.

Thanks to Sammaaayy, Tom and Ken for the props! Heh.

That said...IS IT FEBRUARY 20th YET?!:kickass:
 
It's just another thing that the music industry needs to figure out before everything goes into complete "download mode" only.

Agreed. For me, digital music may be an acceptible substitute for CD's, but PDF files for artwork are not. I still want the artwork in something I can hold and look at (that I didn't have to print out of my printer at a much lower quality).
 
I used to feel this way. When I got my first MP3 player, this changed.

I find that my first listen to any CD is on my MP3 player. The only place I use my CD's anymore is the car (and once I find a good way to play my MP3 player there, I won't need them there anymore). For that reason, I don't have any problems downloading the music before release. The "hype" is still there for me. I know months before that the CD is coming, and I know when it's expected date is, so my anticipated date to hear it is always the release date. When I find it for download early, I actually find myself excited that it was available and I have the chance to hear it early. When I buy a new CD, I no longer "rip it open and play it right away". I actually wait until I get home and rip it to MP3 before I play the CD.

That said, I still love opening the package and looking through the booklet. I like when companies include mini-catalogs of other CD's available from their label (I have discovered new bands that way). I always enjoy physically acquiring the CD and adding it to my "collection". There is still no substitute for owning the original item.

At least for me, the "anticipation" is still satisfied if I download 2 weeks early or wait until I get the physical CD...

((And "yes", I placed my pre-order for the new ND two weeks ago...))


It is a really interesting subject and one that I have debated at length with a mate who downloads hundreds of CDs and no longer buys...

I have been a relentless collector all my life, to ridiculous extremes. I still only download from Band and Label websites, whatever they make available as promotional enticements are fine by me.

This particular regularly gives me a CD with a burn of an unreleased album on it. He gave me a copy of the new album after playing the start of it in his car the other week.

I guess this is where I differ from some other people... I have almost come to embrace this downloading now.

Although he no longer buys CDs, he does spread the word of new and usually underground releases (he is always looking for something new) and several other people buy CDs that they would otherwise not be aware of.

My pre-order went in as soon as I saw the details about ordering. I am still waiting with anticipation for the delivery...

The "competition" record companies have with downloads has forced them to provide tempting limited editions, DVDs and deals which I am sure they would otherwise have not done.

Ultimately, I am sure these additional costs are not being eaten up by the labels, but are coming out of the artists' share, but as a collector it is not bad news.

The downloading has also pushed the price down of CDs over here (Americans will hardly believe the full price of CDs in a High Street store here, like the cost of our petrol!), it is now sometimes cheaper than the equivalent of $20 for us to pick up CDs now.

I personally cannot justify downloading full albums that are commercially available. I guess it rests with our consciences though...

If the quality of the actual CD when it arrives is no better than on the burned CD then I am more than happy, it is a stellar work! If it is better, then so much happier!
 
Although he no longer buys CDs, he does spread the word of new and usually underground releases (he is always looking for something new) and several other people buy CDs that they would otherwise not be aware of.

So is it OK to order food at a restaurant, eat, and run out the door without paying, as long as you tell others how good the food was, so they themselves go and eat there?

There is NO way to justify downloading. It's stealing, it's that simple. Am I a saint? No, not at all. What I do have is the respect to not rub the bands nose in it either. Too many people think it's "OK" to test drive a CD before buying it. Back in the day, that's what reviews were for. Now, it's become so easy to download, and even when you have full intentions on buying the disc, real life comes up, the car needs fixing, school books need to be purchased, you need to buy food for the week, gas in the car... And you may never get around to picking it up, because it's become too easy, and convenient, and it makes us lazy, and forgetful.
 
I am with Paul on this 100%!
If I want to check out a band, I buy their disc.
Ok, for some bands (Novembers Doom included) I first heard them from getting a disc in a trade. Then if I like a band I discover this way, I normally go out and buy some of their stuff.

I dunno. I guess it is still the fanboy in me that gets all excited for new release day.

Granted, downloads ARE great for getting into a band, or sampling a band.
Most bands do offer samples on their site or my space.

Too long gone are the days where you would first get into a band from seeing them live or *gasp* purchasing their demo!!!!
 
Haha, I remember when I bought To Welcome the Fade. I had no clue at all who Novembers Doom was. I just liked the name a lot. That sounds weird to say since you ended up at the top of my list, and if not top, still damn close to it. That was before I even had the internet. We were slow to the chase on the internet game.
 
So is it OK to order food at a restaurant, eat, and run out the door without paying, as long as you tell others how good the food was, so they themselves go and eat there?

There is NO way to justify downloading. It's stealing, it's that simple. Am I a saint? No, not at all. What I do have is the respect to not rub the bands nose in it either. Too many people think it's "OK" to test drive a CD before buying it. Back in the day, that's what reviews were for. Now, it's become so easy to download, and even when you have full intentions on buying the disc, real life comes up, the car needs fixing, school books need to be purchased, you need to buy food for the week, gas in the car... And you may never get around to picking it up, because it's become too easy, and convenient, and it makes us lazy, and forgetful.

No, I certainly don't think that those scenarios are OK at all and not intending to rub any noses in anything.

I am one of the most obsessive collectors around and I view a burned CD as being of no more value to me than a badly recorded 90 minute cassette 15 years ago. I cannot understand why some people are content with that.

As I said, I personally do not download anything apart from the off track made available to the public by band or label.

I am still keenly awaiting the arrival of my pre-order and some tracks will make their way into my sets when DJing.

Apologies if my post was misconstrued, I was merely attempting to point out that I have now reluctantly accepted that there can be a positive aspect under certain circumstances.

Some people will simply never put their money into the equation. The fact that CDs are becoming financially more accessible over here is helping people to actually make that puchase themselves. I don't know for sure where the "compromise" is being made, but I guess that the companies are still doing very well out of it, so probably at the expense of the artist.
 
I just realized something.
Today is President's Day, which means at the earliest, I will not receive the new disc until Tomorrow!!!!!

ARGHHHHHHHH!

Yeah, I just realized the same thing :cry:

I checked the USPS tracking page and my shipment arrived at my local post office yesterday, but I guess I won't see it until tomorrow...

Feb 20 is gonna rule! :headbang: