Jam Master Jay murdered in recording studio

[VangelicSurgeon]

WHAT THE FUCK!?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/31/rapper.slain/index.html

 

[FuSoYa]

I wonder if it had something to do with trying to get a horn octet recorded.

 

[avi]

this is some pretty sad news, especially considering the posi vibe RUN DMC tried to put off

 

[xfer]

ozmagreed: hahaha
phimseto: ?
ozmagreed: the ol' posthumous aggrandization is in process
ozmagreed: CNN.com refers to Run-DMC as "the Beatles of rap music"
phimseto: oh lord
phimseto: i wouldn't say that
phimseto: more like the Beach Boys
phimseto: of Rap Music

 

[VangelicSurgeon]

what's that say about the beach boys? they were groundbreaking too.

 

[xfer]

early success, some big pop hits, but not much in the way of artistic merit.

really, hip-hop didn't get its artistic chops until gangsta rap. and you could totally see some early rap groups like de la soul struggling to lift it out the realm of simple party music.

 

[avi]

if you don't think the Beach Boys has artistic merit, you are sorely mistaken.

 

[deadair]

man o man... alex... i didn't think you were THAT dumb about music...

say you are joking!!!

sure, later day beach boys is horrible... but... they also didn't have brian willson

 

[VangelicSurgeon]

Sayin...PET SOUNDS

 

[deadair]

SAYIN... SMILE

 

[avi]

Sunflower and Surf's Up are both pretty good, too. A few of the tracks get a little weird and/or creepy, but otherwise there's still lots of great music on em.

 

[xfer]

My exposure to the Beach Boys is limited to stuff like "Surfin' U.S.A." and "Be True To Your School", which I find to be pretty unartistic. I've never heard 'Pet Sounds'. I have heard that Brian Wilson was 100% of the Beach Boys' artistic part...but if Pet Sounds is just a bunch of Surfin'-U.S.A. type tracks, I stand by my derision. If it's a whole 'nother animal, though, then I can respect that. If someone burns me a copy I'll listen to it with an open mind.

Perhaps my biggest fault was relying on phimseto's opinion combined with my limited knowledge. That or posting this here instead of on the "Post something you think sucks that everyone will think you're dumb for hating here." thread.

 

[avi]

Pet Sounds is easily one of the greatest records ever made. Maybe I'll get you a rip of the mp3s tomorrow or sumtin.

 

[FuSoYa]

 

[xfer]

I'd actually heard Pet Sounds was in the top five EVER, but I thought it was a Brian Wilson solo record (obviously, I'm poorly-informed). Somebody at a party once raved about how Brian Wilson solo was an insane genius (literally and figuratively).

Well, I still say Run-DMC were no "Beatles of rap".