JEFF LOOMIS - THE UlLTIMATUM

Yeah, no offense but I'm honestly not that excited for the album sadly. The first was good and all and I'm sure this one will be entertaining, but it's just going to be cool riffs with tons and tons of soloing over them (5 string sweeps, diminished arpeggios, quick phrases with a bend etc). Without vocals and a song structure built that way it just feels like one big solo. Jeff is an amazing guitarist and musician, but for me I'm starting to feel like so much of metal now is just people with their protools writing cool backings and then soloing over it. The dynamic of some band getting together and pooling their stuff together doesn't happen as much with all the collaborations/solo projects etc and now so many cd's to me feel solid and good but devoid of a lot of energy (bands making music to get signed and get out there instead of just jamming the fuck out organically and then getting picked up). I've been reverting to just listening to oldschool metal for that raw energy. I'd rather listen to Dave Mustaine tweaked out of his fucking mind playing insane riffs with other fucked up musicians on Killing is my business and feel that pure energy than listen to one of the millions of solo albums/side projects out there (though I know that this all isn't a new phenomenon).

I still hope the album does well and I'm sure people will enjoy it and hell I probably will as well, just not as much.
 
Jeff is going to have to realize that on his own before he returns to Nevermore, I suspect. And who knows what other problems there were to be addressed.
 
My first impression when hearing this track was thinking it is fucking killer and awesome. After a few more listens today, I still have that same impression except I feel that after the 2:00 minute mark the song starts to get tiring, drawn-out, and disjointed. The song could have been just fine without 2:00 to 2:22. The guest solo at 3:00 felt like it came from nowhere and I didn't really like it. Like I said, this track is awesome but some parts should be left out. There is plenty of shredding and sweep picking as is. On the plus side, the riffs sound killer!
 
Enemy242 said:
Yeah, no offense but I'm honestly not that excited for the album sadly. The first was good and all and I'm sure this one will be entertaining, but it's just going to be cool riffs with tons and tons of soloing over them (5 string sweeps, diminished arpeggios, quick phrases with a bend etc). Without vocals and a song structure built that way it just feels like one big solo. Jeff is an amazing guitarist and musician, but for me I'm starting to feel like so much of metal now is just people with their protools writing cool backings and then soloing over it. The dynamic of some band getting together and pooling their stuff together doesn't happen as much with all the collaborations/solo projects etc and now so many cd's to me feel solid and good but devoid of a lot of energy (bands making music to get signed and get out there instead of just jamming the fuck out organically and then getting picked up). I've been reverting to just listening to oldschool metal for that raw energy. I'd rather listen to Dave Mustaine tweaked out of his fucking mind playing insane riffs with other fucked up musicians on Killing is my business and feel that pure energy than listen to one of the millions of solo albums/side projects out there (though I know that this all isn't a new phenomenon).

I still hope the album does well and I'm sure people will enjoy it and hell I probably will as well, just not as much.
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You said it, man.
 
I'm so looking forward to this album and loved this clip. Jeff is also using vocalists on this album which I can't wait to here. Christine and Ihsahn!!! Yay!
 
Sentient 6 said:
Where the hell would vox go on this song? It does not need them.
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Well, there sure as hell isn't any room in it's current form! My thought was more along the lines that there are enough riffs and melody lines there to remove some of the guitar and replace it with vocals to make an actual song and not just a long guitar solo....what I'm really trying to say is that I wish Jeff used all this new material to collaborate with you on new NM!
 
I paused Evolution 169 to listen to this.

Wrong move.

That being said, I'll still buy the album cus ya know, Jeff is the man and whatnot. This song is pretty damn good in my opinion btw.
 
Sentient 6 said:
Where the hell would vox go on this song? It does not need them.
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After the guest solo and before the doodily doodily part...there could be some non specific key multi-yells of "RISE-RISE-RISE", or not; depending on the barometric pressure and if there is an ample supply of thorium Yeah...exactly. That would be "cool.":dopey:

* This is like picking fly shit out of the pepper.:zzz:
 
Enemy242 said:
Yeah, no offense but I'm honestly not that excited for the album sadly. The first was good and all and I'm sure this one will be entertaining, but it's just going to be cool riffs with tons and tons of soloing over them (5 string sweeps, diminished arpeggios, quick phrases with a bend etc).
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I didn't hear any cool riffs.
 
Sounds excellent.

Love how some are not interested after 1 song in shitty quality on jewtoob.
Yer cool.
 
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