Judge by yourself.

[Wyvern]

Well to give people something to think and discuss (I hope this also will put Sixx fears to rest), I found a link to a song that Kevin DuBrow posted from the time Randy Rhoads was in Quiet Riot. Suppossedly the song was recorded in 1975 (pretty old school I guess), so listen and post your opinions.

http://www.kevindubrow.com/01%20Come%20And%20Gone.wma


I'll give mine later.

 

[sixxswine]

It's like much of the material found on the Randy Rhoads Years on Rhino Records...
It's pretty good, I think. I don't know that I couldn't live without it.
I have to get Kevin's record, even if it's just all covers.

 

[Bryant]

Hmmm..... I am about to get into trouble here but Randy was not one of my favorite guitarists. He was extremely inventive and I can 100% understand why he was such an influence on many, but he was a bit choppy and sloppy for me.
On this song, he sounds like he needs to tune his guitar. I'm really not dogging the guy as I have a great deal of respect for some of the things he accomplished on guitar, but it doesn't sound very good to me.


Bryant

 

[Greeno]

90% of the stuff he did with QR is not worth checking out (in my book anyway). However his years with Ozzy are of course a completely different story.
Bryant, do you like his work with Ozzy?

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

Hmmm..... I am about to get into trouble here but Randy was not one of my favorite guitarists. He was extremely inventive and I can 100% understand why he was such an influence on many, but he was a bit choppy and sloppy for me.
On this song, he sounds like he needs to tune his guitar. I'm really not dogging the guy as I have a great deal of respect for some of the things he accomplished on guitar, but it doesn't sound very good to me.


Bryant

You have to remember that was 1975 Randy.. not 1980-83... he didn't fully mature as a guitarist.. I hope you don't mean he was sloppy and/or choppy in his Ozzy years (takes out a machete lol jk) .... he's my favorite guitarist of all time.. he wasnt like other shredders that came out after him... he could actually write a Great song that has tested time...and unlike other shredders he actually was a master at rhythm guitar as well as lead... most other shredders never really bothered to seriously learn rhythm.. therefore they werent very good songwriters... just my opinion.. dont shoot me for it ....

 

[Wyvern]

a) I think the song is simple and boring. Reminds too much of LZ (no offense Zeppie) and does not move me at all

b) I have never being fan of QR, only like their cover of 'Cum On Feel The Noize'

c) Never cared for Ozzy solo career (and I still don't).

Being said all that, I do like a LOT Randy's work with the Ozzman. I consider his guitar work exceptionally good, beautifully crafted and like UM said he was a great shredder and not like many "turkey effect" players of today.
I always had wished that Randy would have been in a better band and alive

 

[sixxswine]

Hmmm..... I am about to get into trouble here but Randy was not one of my favorite guitarists.
Bryant

I said this in a thread many moons ago too.
He wasn't all that, I liked Jake best, as far as Ozzy stuff
is concerned. I can even go as far as saying that I like the QR stuff
after he left! There is a track that kicks ass from that era
called Laughing Gas...
He was leaning more towards classical guitar anyway,
I think had he lived, he wouldn't even be in the rock
genre now.

 

[Bryant]

90% of the stuff he did with QR is not worth checking out (in my book anyway). However his years with Ozzy are of course a completely different story.
Bryant, do you like his work with Ozzy?

I thought Jake E. Lee ate his lunch, though the Randy era songs themselves were better. As I said, it's not that I think he is "bad" and I thought he was very unique and inventive, but he never had a smooth delivery. As dedicated as he was, I wish he would still be around because I am sure his mediocre phrasing (from a pure nuts and bolts standpoint of precision and key) would have improved.


Bryant

 

[Igor_Cavalera]

I love his work with Ozzy.
And he's one of my most favourite guitarists ever just because of those two albums.
So creative and unique. And what's scary is that he had so much more potential to become better if he had only lived longer.

R.I.P. Randy.

P.S. I don't think he's sloppy in studio recordings Bryant. I only notice that in SOME live recordings. But it still seems to sound fine.
But everyone has their own oppinion

 

[sixxswine]

SPeaking of QR, they have a dvd coming out from '89 live in Japan. This however isn't with Kevin on Vocals it's with Paul Shortino. I like Pauls vocals, the QR record he did was a mixed bag. I would be interested in getting the dvd, but it's not sanctioned by the band, so it's likely gonna be just a show & that's it.
Greeno, you being a Rough Cutt fan, are you buying?
How about the rest of you guys?

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

I thought Jake E. Lee ate his lunch, though the Randy era songs themselves were better. As I said, it's not that I think he is "bad" and I thought he was very unique and inventive, but he never had a smooth delivery. As dedicated as he was, I wish he would still be around because I am sure his mediocre phrasing (from a pure nuts and bolts standpoint of precision and key) would have improved.


Bryant

ackkk bryant your killing me by saying Randy's playing was mediocre phrasing (if you mean his Ozzy years) ... again I think you are judging his playing by today's standards... and sometimes you cant judge the past with the present... if you were a metalhead back then and u heard Randy come out with what he did with Ozzy I think you would think differently but you are more basing his playing on whatever you think is technically brilliant nowadays (whoever are your fave guitarists presently i mean... Children of Bodom and Opeth's guitarists are technically brilliant and good songwriters to boot but they are missing "something" that Randy had and it's evident that even if Randy's playing was mediocre phrasing in the first 2 ozzy studio albums you can hear that he is brilliant live in the Tribute album) but back then Randy was brilliant technically along with EVH (well Eddie was a great songwriter too) and Malsteen ( though i think randy blew both of them away in songwriting as well as leads and rhythm)... Ozzy might not be where he is today if he had never discovered Randy... what Randy was playing back then was new and to hear such things back in 1980 blew people away and that is why he is a legend much like Hendrix was with his playing.. by today's standards both aren't much anymore but back in their days repspectively they made a statement and were ahead of their peers (Eddie was a fast bluesy pentatonic player while Malsteen was a fast classically influenced player.. Randy took the best of both plus other influences and came out with 2 brilliant ozzy albums that will always test time)... they will always be legends for a reason... and time will not forget them and what they contributed to the guitar...