yes serious, no idea what you guys are talking about...about time there is a real festival in the usa...testament carcass fear factory napalm death just to name a few, are you kidding me???....if i was 21 i would drive down with $20 cash and a sleeping bag and try to bed as much fat disturbed female trash from san bernadino/kern county as i could, no question. unfortunately im like 64 years old now so that dream is gone....cheers to the youth who make it there in my stead