I always thought Dreamscape was decent..
ASOP
Lunar Strain isn't that good, too many of you give the album far too much praise just because it's the tr00 thing to do.
And yes, yes, I know you'll say "no no it's not true, I really do think it's their best album evahhh" and whatever, but it's not true, is it?
Even Jesper has said it sucks
Although, I like parts of it. Behind Space 99 rapes the version on Lunar Strain, as does CiS 99. Lunar Strain as a song is distinctly meh, Starforsaken is alright, Dreamscape fuckin' sucks, so does Everlost Part 1, Part 2 is a little better, In Flames is a good song but suffers from the shitty production, same with Upon an Oaken Throne, a rerecording of both would do them wonders.
Jesper did not say it sucks, he said he doesn't like it as much as their later stuff. He's entitled to his opinion.
If you think this is shitty production, I've got news for you: this is heavy fucking metal and production gets a lot worse than this.
As for it being the tr00 thing, I also really like ASOP and CC, nothing tr00 about that, but this is a great album. It's complex, melodic, heavy, and dark. Subterranean was a perfection of what they did here, but songs like Clad In Shadows and Upon An Oaken Throne are simply amazing for being so dark and heavy without giving in to the cliches of death and black metal. Also, the violin is something that doesn't get enough use except in goth/doom bands, it's good to see it here.
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As for Behind Space, I think it's a little overrated tbh. Great song though. I like the rerecorded version better the but the original of CiS is perfect.
Jesper did not say it sucks, he said he doesn't like it as much as their later stuff. He's entitled to his opinion.
If you think this is shitty production, I've got news for you: this is heavy fucking metal and production gets a lot worse than this.
As for it being the tr00 thing, I also really like ASOP and CC, nothing tr00 about that, but this is a great album. It's complex, melodic, heavy, and dark. Subterranean was a perfection of what they did here, but songs like Clad In Shadows and Upon An Oaken Throne are simply amazing for being so dark and heavy without giving in to the cliches of death and black metal. Also, the violin is something that doesn't get enough use except in goth/doom bands, it's good to see it here.
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As for Behind Space, I think it's a little overrated tbh. Great song though. I like the rerecorded version better the but the original of CiS is perfect.
metalkicksass said:Hoho, wait there mate! nothing against your opinion but i think the originel version of behind space has a way more epic sound, plus a nice acoustisc ending dreamscape sucks, agreed. everlost part 1 is realy haunting beautiful track, everlost part 2 is nice enough and the production sounds fine to me.
In one interview he does say it sucks.... then goes back on himself as he realises people reading who like Lunar Strain will probably start crying btw, I was talking about production in comparison to any of their other albums, and yes, it is shitty.
The tr00 thing was pretty much a jibe but i guess that struck a nerve, heh. If you want violins in your metals listen to folk metal... plenty of it there, in music that is superior to Lunar Strain. I think you're still overrating it tremendously, but whatever, everyone has an opinion.
The acoustic ending of the original Behind Space is the only thing better than the '99 version IMO. Everlost Part 1 bores me to tears tbh, Part 2 I can dig though.
In one interview he does say it sucks.... then goes back on himself as he realises people reading who like Lunar Strain will probably start crying btw, I was talking about production in comparison to any of their other albums, and yes, it is shitty.
The tr00 thing was pretty much a jibe but i guess that struck a nerve, heh. If you want violins in your metals listen to folk metal... plenty of it there, in music that is superior to Lunar Strain. I think you're still overrating it tremendously, but whatever, everyone has an opinion.