Metal Genealogy

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This is a chart taken from the documentary "Metal: A headbanger's Journey" which I have just recently watched. Although I very much enjoyed the film itself, there was this flow chart that sorta seemed out of place/incorrect to me. Obviously he put A LOT of research into this so, I'm not sure if it is to contested with facts or just personal opinion. You guys decide and discuss:

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is it me, or is their something wrong with typing a report about suicide bombings while listening to death metal?
 
I thought people might be dicussing more the fact CoB is under "thrash" and that CoF is under "Norwegian Black Metal" and those other classifications which seem weird.

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Söy;5673784 said:
is it me, or is their something wrong with typing a report about suicide bombings while listening to death metal?

lol, not really... listening to that arabian/bollywood shit though while doing that might be a bit fucked :lol::erk:
 
lol, not really... listening to that arabian/bollywood shit though while doing that might be a bit fucked :lol::erk:

what about listening to german music while doing a report about the holocaust/wwii?

i've done that before unintentionally (random play is full of surprises)o_O
 
Cob are not thrash metal at all in my opinion... I'll say something about the whole thing once I have the time to have a good look at it...
 
Söy;5673805 said:
what about listening to german music while doing a report about the holocaust/wwii?

i've done that before unintentionally (random play is full of surprises)o_O
lmao... as long as you weren't typing a about how the atrocities the jews suffered at the hands of the Nazis never REALLY happened while listening to "Deutscheland Uberalis" (or whatever) then you're good :lol:
Cob are not thrash metal at all in my opinion... I'll say something about the whole thing once I have the time to have a good look at it...

ok :):)
 
This is a chart taken from the documentary "Metal: A headbanger's Journey" which I have just recently watched. Although I very much enjoyed the film itself, there was this flow chart that sorta seemed out of place/incorrect to me.
well, I am writing an essay about metal (music and culture) for graduation and I watched the movie and kinda copied that chart as well, but since I don't know all of the bands (honestly, that's a lot you're supposed to know) I just left most of them out. My intention in writing the essay was to show a relatively objective picture of the metal community and all the bands, but the more I wrote, the more I realized that you will always be bound to your preferences and what you know. I see that you put some bands in there as well, or did you take that out of some website? I wrote down all the bands and connections and you got some additional ones (COF, COB, e.g.). I won't put in the whole thing in my essay, but I described the different styles by referring to that chart, but I also added things and switched bands which I felt didn't fit in where they were. For example, I do not agree with the "fact" that glam metal was supposed to be over because I consider Wig Wam to be glam...but it's all just about opinions..I did even come to the conclusion that it's ridiculous to categorize everything because some of the bands change their style and some of them are just crossing the borders, so there's no way to put that right.

I think that Sam Dunn wanted to have the chart rather as a rough guideline without being totally guaranteed to be true. And if you want to do something good (what he really did because the movie is just awesome), you have to be really interested in what you're working with. And I know that I won't touch subgenres of metal where I don't know a lot simply because I couldn't stand in for what I write. I guess when we're looking at this chart, we should take it as an opinion that many people share. It's not said that it's accurate, but I think it resembles how the average metal fan would categorize what he listens to pretty well.
 
i didnt know cob was considered thrash metal...

that's what I thought when I first looked at that table. There have been some edits done to the chart..I don't know if he took it off the web or did it himself...but it's not "the" Metal: A Headbanger's Story chart although it looks pretty similar to that because of the genres, but it's been edited. COF hasn't been there either...
 
that's what I thought when I first looked at that table. There have been some edits done to the chart..I don't know if he took it off the web or did it himself...but it's not "the" Metal: A Headbanger's Story chart although it looks pretty similar to that because of the genres, but it's been edited. COF hasn't been there either...

Actually this doesn't seem like the one from the movie. It's from wikipedia and at first glance I thought it was but now that I look it seems to be a bit more expansive than the original featured in the film, ALTHOUGH CoF WAS IN FACT listed under Norwegian Black Metal in the film, trust me. I have a good memory when it comes to movies and I bet you my hair that it was :D
 
This is a chart taken from the documentary "Metal: A headbanger's Journey" which I have just recently watched. Although I very much enjoyed the film itself, there was this flow chart that sorta seemed out of place/incorrect to me.
well, I am writing an essay about metal (music and culture) for graduation and I watched the movie and kinda copied that chart as well, but since I don't know all of the bands (honestly, that's a lot you're supposed to know) I just left most of them out. My intention in writing the essay was to show a relatively objective picture of the metal community and all the bands, but the more I wrote, the more I realized that you will always be bound to your preferences and what you know. I see that you put some bands in there as well, or did you take that out of some website? I wrote down all the bands and connections and you got some additional ones (COF, COB, e.g.). I won't put in the whole thing in my essay, but I described the different styles by referring to that chart, but I also added things and switched bands which I felt didn't fit in where they were. For example, I do not agree with the "fact" that glam metal was supposed to be over because I consider Wig Wam to be glam...but it's all just about opinions..I did even come to the conclusion that it's ridiculous to categorize everything because some of the bands change their style and some of them are just crossing the borders, so there's no way to put that right.

I think that Sam Dunn wanted to have the chart rather as a rough guideline without being totally guaranteed to be true. And if you want to do something good (what he really did because the movie is just awesome), you have to be really interested in what you're working with. And I know that I won't touch subgenres of metal where I don't know a lot simply because I couldn't stand in for what I write. I guess when we're looking at this chart, we should take it as an opinion that many people share. It's not said that it's accurate, but I think it resembles how the average metal fan would categorize what he listens to pretty well.

+ About a million.

Actually this doesn't seem like the one from the movie. It's from wikipedia and at first glance I thought it was but now that I look it seems to be a bit more expansive than the original featured in the film, ALTHOUGH CoF WAS IN FACT listed under Norwegian Black Metal in the film, trust me. I have a good memory when it comes to movies and I bet you my hair that it was :D

Yes COF were in the Norwegian Black Metgal category but on the poster it said Norwegian Black Metal - Cradle Of Filth (UK). I think he means that they are a UK band taking the style from other NBM bands. I assume that if there was a British band playing Swedish Death Metal for example then it would say Swedish Death Metal - Bands Name (UK).