MTV Video Music Awards

[MetalManCPA]

I hope it's not just me who thinks "music" has totally gone to pot. I think that was one of the worst award shows for music that I've seen in a long time.

Didn't notice too much talent. And it also shows the narrow-miindedness of the mass population. Not that I expected any real metal bands, but this mass-appeal fad crap is disgusting.

 

[foxdvd]

Did anyone else catch Alicia Keys starting her song out with Beethoven’s Fur Elise? The reaction from the audience was like “WOW, she is amazing!” Now, anyone who plays the piano knows this is a very easy piece of music to play. It is one of the first anyone who plays the piano learns. Just because it is a classical piece, automatically she gains all this respect as if she is a brilliant musician. After the show, the VJ’s were all acting like she is an amazing pianists. She is decent, but no more then just about any person in a mid-sized church around the world.

 

[Russell]

Yeahit annoys me when people are admired as wonderfull musicians just cos they play a classical piece. Grrrrr, many of those on guitar are easier to play then most of the Opeth solos

 

[Lina]

Yeah, I'm torn on the Alicia Keys thing. Foxdvd, you're absolutely right: As a (fellow?) pianist, amen to you for pointing out that Fur Elise is easy. I played it when I was 7. And I agree that it's annoying to see her get all this credit.

BUT I do think her music is a refreshing change from most popular stuff. I mean, it's not that it's original -- it's just old school R&B I guess. But at least it IS instrument-driven. At least she wrote it and plays it. But shit, that's sad that that makes me respect her more than the average performer. It should just be a given that singers write their own music.

As for the rest of that show...it made me want to go on a killing rampage (most things do). I only watched like 10 minutes before I had to turn it off.

And you know, there is only one band on MTV that actually has good videos and that would be Tool -- yet, I don't think they were even nominated, were they? And that Missy Elliot video was pretty good, but that lost to the completely unoriginal rap whore Eve and her rock whore buddy Gwen.

 

[foxdvd]

BUT I do think her music is a refreshing change from most popular stuff. I mean, it's not that it's original -- it's just old school R&B I guess. But at least it IS instrument-driven. At least she wrote it and plays it.

Yes, she is more talented the just about anyone else in R&B today. Her voice is very nice, and she does play an instrument and write some of her own music, which I respect more then someone like Britney Spears, who has all of this done for her. I am never going to own one of her cds, but I can not bash someone who does. Like you though, it is frustrating seeing someone who has decent talent receive praise beyond what he or she deserves. On top of that, I feel to much emphasis has been put on her piano playing, probably because so many musicians today on MTV do not play their own instruments, or when they do it is one or two chords on a guitar.


As far as my piano playing, yes I have played since I was a child as well. My family was very strong in the church (which is probably why I rebelled so much) and from a young age I was taught to play. My parents sent me to lessons when I started to play more then my mother could teach, and by the age of 11 I was playing in our church when my mom was not feeling well, and by 16 I was the official piano player for the church. It was about this time I started to hate the environment I was playing in. I so desperately wanted to play something more original, or spice things up. This was a Baptist church though, and when I did spice things up, I was given a stern lecture by the preacher on not to do that again.


It was not much longer that I just quit going to the church, and isolated myself with friends.

 

[_Transparent_]

hmn, i didn't bother watching it, didn't make much sense to watch something you know will bbe crap.

 

[E V I L]

I can play the fur elise in my sleep.

Did you guys notice how her playing of the last section of fur elise was rather sloppy? (don't know the italian words for it)

I like that song she has now (falling), but I don't like Alicia Keys. I think she exudes the fact that she is full of herself which I find annoying.

(by the way I only saw a little bit of the award show, but the best parts were Jamie foxx's operatic bit and the his stand up routine wherein he mocks everyone in the house (except Suge Knight)

 

[S4R]

Lina, I always seem to agree with your posts, want to go out with me? I'm sure you haven't seen this post before...LOL.....keep those great posts coming .

 

[Lina]

Wow, thanks for brightening my day!

 

[Duvall]

foxdvd: you're like a young Jerry Lee Lewis, rebelling in church..you little.. rebel you.

I find the awards and their hokey medley/video re-enactments extremely irritating. I'd say the "Slim Shady" and that Dr. Dre "conscience" song was the worst MTV presentation I've ever seen. How would it feel to be one of the background Slim Shadies in that? Would you even put it on your resume??

I liked NIN's little comeback, playing a song no one had ever heard before, especially one with dissonance in it so it sounds like they're messing up... pretty brave, I'd say.

Overall, they embody what I dislike most about the music industry: promotion of soul-less music through reinforcement of routine.

The people who don't write their own songs continually win awards, thus allowing them more fame and money which they will NOT spend on music lessons. Instead, they'll get platinum-plated rims for their Bentleys, right?

 

[foxdvd]

foxdvd: you're like a young Jerry Lee Lewis, rebelling in church..you little.. rebel you.

LOL.. GO SATAN!

 

[foxdvd]

A man can only play “Amazing Grace” and “Do lord” so many times before he wants to cut his own eardrums out with a dull spoon and feed them to his dog.

 

[Lina]

While I wasn't the official church pianist, I did an awful lot of accompaning and performing (during the money collection -- hey! where's my share of the pot?!) myself. And they never used to let me play the passionate, exciting classical music like Chopin or Brahms or even some Beethoven -- just boring old Bach, Bach, Bach. As if truly emotional music would offend God's delicate sensibilities or stir up Satan's wrath or some bullshit. Ick.

 

[foxdvd]

Just before I left the church, an older lady came up to me and told me if I wanted to play that wild stuff, I should join a black church……she did not use the word black if you know what I mean.

1st: her racism would be enough for me to want to get out of that environment alone....heck, it is enough for me to want to leave Oklahoma

2nd: how should could associate the style of playing I did with black music, is beyond me. If anything, she should have called my music Native American, because I do have a tendency to put my culture into music a bit, though I never did so in church.



Lina, do you still play in church?

 

[nogs00]

who the fuck is Alicia Keys?! i dont know man, i'm kind of
rite there with Transparent. you know its going to
be bullshit... why bother.

 

[Lina]

Originally posted by foxdvd
Lina, do you still play in church?

Uh...have you not read the "do you believe in god" thread? lol. NO, n-o, i absolutely do not play in church anymore. You couldn't pay me to go to church now. I never really believed -- just brought up in it, ya know? So I accepted it until around the middle of high school. But now, I run into all these people from my church and they're like, "We haven't seen you in a while. You should start coming again!" How do you tell people, "Well, see, actually, that won't be happening because I'm an athiest"?

My last post said i played during communion -- i meant during the offering, just to clear that up. I guess that WOULD be a pretty psycho communion with Chopin in the background. "This represents the blood of --" *bang!* *crash!* on the keyboard.

 

[nogs00]

LINA:
heheh, i simply say "ever wonder where the name nogs is
derived from?" AGNOgsTIC

 

[foxdvd]

I stay out of threads about God...or try to.