MySpace ... the fine print -

[hyena]

@tali: well, it depends. to me, a blackmail universe with no school shootings might be better than a non-blackmail universe with school shootings, but we're not even considering such extreme trade-offs here. people who want to stay anonymous on blogs will manage to.

 

[Blitzkrieg Pajo]

Well I think there is a difference between instant messaging and phone/mail. As I already said I don't discuss many important things on instant messaging that anyone could take an advantage from reading it so that I would care anyhow, even though it is, of course, a personal matter.

 

[Sacred Profane]

"MySpace has a nonexclusive, fully paid and a royalty-free worldwide license to use, copy, modify, adapt, translate, publicly display, store, reproduce, transmit and distribute any content uploaded to the site"

Also means that when you remove it they don't have that right anymore. As far as I've heard at least.

 

[Misanthrope]

I guess the main issue here is that your average MySpace user assumes personal details, pictures and posts which require logging in and/or are "friends only" cannot be easily dug up by random e-stalkers. The possibility that they might one day be published or sold in some sort of creepy "best of" by MySpace, is certainly a little disturbing. Mind you, it is perfectly legal, but we know not many will read the user agreement so thoroughly. Although I imagine attention-whoring reaches its highest peak amongst MySpace users.

Maybe im way off but now that you mention this to me it seems less like a "screw all artists" scam and more of an "amateur/webcam whore porn" scheme.

 

[Misanthrope]

"MySpace has a nonexclusive, fully paid and a royalty-free worldwide license to use, copy, modify, adapt, translate, publicly display, store, reproduce, transmit and distribute any content uploaded to the site"

Also means that when you remove it they don't have that right anymore. As far as I've heard at least.

No, once its uploaded they can store it and do as they please with it. Uploaded only covers you sending it to myspace servers, just because you remove doesnt means you didnt upload in the first place, so myspace would be covered.

 

[Steve]

Those fuckers are going to steal my band's logo. I'll avoid putting up any decent music now.

 

[Kovenant84]

Maybe im way off but now that you mention this to me it seems less like a "screw all artists" scam and more of an "amateur/webcam whore porn" scheme.

That would certainly be in keeping with what little I've seen of myspace outside of DT's page...

~kov.

 

[Scourge of Malice]

Do you have to give credit? That's all I would care about.

 

[Sacred Profane]

No, once its uploaded they can store it and do as they please with it. Uploaded only covers you sending it to myspace servers, just because you remove doesnt means you didnt upload in the first place, so myspace would be covered.

I actually doubt that, given the enormous amount of material that goes up on myspace it would be quite expensive for them to store it somewhere. And they would not be able to make money on it anyway, mainly because of how bad it would look for them to 'steal' material. They would make infinitly more money on making sure people keep coming to myspace rather than fuck a band and get a 'bad rep' where they start losing ad income.
Let's not forget a similar case has never been to trial either. So it's not even certain their 'contract' holds up.
I also don't see how this would work in reality either. I own my music, and they cannot prove who has uploaded my songs on myspace, I could say that another bandmember who does not own the copyright uploaded it. Which would make their contract void. Since you can't give away someone else's music/art.

 

[Steve]

MySpace is owned in part by Rupert Murdoch, which means anything on there can be televised on Fox News, no questions asked. Wonderful, isn't it?

 

[Sacred Profane]

MySpace is owned in part by Rupert Murdoch, which means anything on there can be televised on Fox News, no questions asked. Wonderful, isn't it?

And the big deal is? Unless you're putting up porn pics of yourself (and maybe even then) I suppose the publicity is good.
As I've mentioned before, there still is no way for them to prove who has uploaded the material and thus they can't make any money from it anyway by selling it.