Need some opinions...

i'd stay away from it... agathis body is not worth its weight in sh*t... and it looks like esp is just trying to rip off the stupid body shapes of bc sh*t... not to mention its bolt on, and i refuse to own any bolt on guitars anymore lol
 
I figured it wasnt going to be a very good choice, I just need something to start out with. I'll keep looking. Thnx for the quick response :)
 
right here, this guitar would be an EXCELLENT starters guitar... it'll have a killer neck on it, and mahogony body is just great. and it doesn't have a tremelo, so you won't have something more complicated than you can handle

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/512492/

the pickups aren't the greatest, but when you get to a point where you are better at guitar, upgrading them will make this guitar totally scream.

also, that guitar has a neck joint to die for... its called the ibanez All Access Neck Joint, and its got such a sweet contour you almost won't notice its there... nothing like most other bolt ons with their huge block neck joint... nothing i hate more than a poorly designed neck joint.
 
I must agree with that ibanez, the aanj gives the guitar the illusion that it has a neck thru joint (at least thats how i feel) the pickups on that paticular model arent the greatest but you can always replace them later, as a rule i tend to stay away from esp and ltd's (just not a fan of them, minus the angra model, I would love to have that guitar) that being said try and play any guitar you want to buy before you do, its always a good idea, if not your taking a gamble.
 
The Ibanez is a good choice. I like Ibanez, don't get me wrong, but I personally am more fond of Jackson. It really depends on your preference but I think this could possibly even get a good starter guitar:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/511562/

I really like the Kelly body style but if you're looking for something more 'exotic', take a look at this one:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/511565/

Even though the assumption of you being a beginner was made, I'll still point this out. I picked these two because they're affordable and they're both 24-fret. Even if you're a starter, I still think that a 24-fret would be in your best interest.

But, if the assumption is wrong and you're not a beginner, also keep this in mind. Pretty much anything under $800 is shit, the majority of the time.
 
SSJ4SephirothX said:
The Ibanez is a good choice. I like Ibanez, don't get me wrong, but I personally am more fond of Jackson. It really depends on your preference but I think this could possibly even get a good starter guitar:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/511562/

I really like the Kelly body style but if you're looking for something more 'exotic', take a look at this one:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/511565/

Even though the assumption of you being a beginner was made, I'll still point this out. I picked these two because they're affordable and they're both 24-fret. Even if you're a starter, I still think that a 24-fret would be in your best interest.

But, if the assumption is wrong and you're not a beginner, also keep this in mind. Pretty much anything under $800 is shit, the majority of the time.
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the problem with jacksons is the neck joints... unless you get a neck through model, you are going to have to suffer with the old school fender style block neck joint... its a problem with most manufacturers... imo the bolt on neck joint really needs to progress for most companies, instead of sticking with the fender way

also, i've played some JS30 models, and i would not recommend them to anybody... terrible neck profile, and horrible quality, although it should be expected seeing as they are made in indonesia, and up until very recently hardly any guitars have come from there... the korean models are higher quality, because the korean plants are getting a good grasp on making quality instruments... the RG321 is korean...
 
Elysian893 said:
the problem with jacksons is the neck joints... unless you get a neck through model, you are going to have to suffer with the old school fender style block neck joint... its a problem with most manufacturers... imo the bolt on neck joint really needs to progress for most companies, instead of sticking with the fender way

also, i've played some JS30 models, and i would not recommend them to anybody... terrible neck profile, and horrible quality, although it should be expected seeing as they are made in indonesia, and up until very recently hardly any guitars have come from there... the korean models are higher quality, because the korean plants are getting a good grasp on making quality instruments... the RG321 is korean...
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Which is one reason why I pointed out that most axes under $800 are shit. Majority of Jacksons over $800-$1000 are set necks rather than bolt-on. But, the fact that he could be a beginner looking for a good affordable guitar, I don't think that would truly matter much. Eventually, he'll want to get something a little less affordable. Before I got my Friedman Sig Jackson six years ago, I played a bolt-on. I played on a bolt-on for eight years. Someone who isn't really experienced shouldn't need to work about something like that until they get good enough to actually notice a difference.

Edit: Also, Schuldiner played a B.C. Rich Stealth. Now, I don't know what his was exactly but there were two main Stealth models; one with a set neck and one with a bolt-on.

John Petrucci has his Musicman which is actually a very fucking badass guitar which is hard to say about Ernie Ball's designs. It is a five bolt neck (both the 6 and 7 strings).
 
SSJ4SephirothX said:
Which is one reason why I pointed out that most axes under $800 are shit. Majority of Jacksons over $800-$1000 are set necks rather than bolt-on. But, the fact that he could be a beginner looking for a good affordable guitar, I don't think that would truly matter much. Eventually, he'll want to get something a little less affordable. Before I got my Friedman Sig Jackson six years ago, I played a bolt-on. I played on a bolt-on for eight years. Someone who isn't really experienced shouldn't need to work about something like that until they get good enough to actually notice a difference.
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yes but a better guitar like a RG321 could last him a little while... i've got a RGT42 neck through, i put an edge tremelo in it and duncans, its a great guitar... great quality too, especially for the first year of that model, and korean made... the 321 isn't far off from the RGT42 besides being bolt on, and having a set bridge, which compared to ibanez's low end tremelos, is a god send, the ibanez set bridge is very very nice.
 
i was just trying to give what i thought was a good suggestion for a starters guitar is all, the RG321 is the kind of guitar i wish i started on, but instead i have a 21 fret yamaha strat copy with 2 humbuckers and a standard tremelo... and a RG321 would be more future proof than the JS30 series jacksons...
 
SSJ4SephirothX said:
Could be worse though. He could get the guitar that I got when I was eight. A 22-fret Fender Stratocaster Squier made in China. :lol: Bullet Series, baby!
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I got a Kasino mini electric guitar when I was about 6 :ill:
I'm really interested in the ESP F-50 also. Looks great and from what I've heard sounds great and is pretty light but I'm sure someone will disagree with me.
 
DarkStEaLtH233 said:
I got a Kasino mini electric guitar when I was about 6 :ill:
I'm really interested in the ESP F-50 also. Looks great and from what I've heard sounds great and is pretty light but I'm sure someone will disagree with me.
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dude the F50 is more of the same, agathis body... as sad is it might sound, basswood is actually better than agathis...
 
Elysian893 said:
dude the F50 is more of the same, agathis body... as sad is it might sound, basswood is actually better than agathis...
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Why is agathis so bad? What kind of flaws does it have to make it so horrible?
 
DarkStEaLtH233 said:
Why is agathis so bad? What kind of flaws does it have to make it so horrible?
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it is the absolute lowest quality wood you can build a guitar out of and have it still stay together... the tone is horrible, to say the least... play a guitar with agathis body, then go pick up another with alder, maple, or mahogony, you'll hear the difference, its humongous... mahogony's got a bit of a deeper tone, i have a mahogony bodied 29 fret washburn, its neck thru, but its real boomy, yet with the right pickup(i've got a dimarzio x2n) it can be real bright too... i also have a guitar made of alder, its tone is real middle of the road like, its got good lows, good highs, its all around really well balanced tone wise... maple tends to be really bright, some people like that, some don't... agathis and poplar are woods to definately steer clear of when buying a guitar... i'm just trying to help you make an informed decision, i'd hate to see someone start on a totally shit guitar and stop playing because of the shit guitar... as for basswood, its also a middle of the road kind of tone wood, similar to alder, although its a little less mid happy... but that RG i linked you to, is mahogony, its gonna sound great
 
i'm borrowing a bc rich made from agathis, weights a fucking ton!!!!!!!!! personally i'd stay away cos of the weight alone
 
but looks also don't make an ax any better... theres a lot that goes into making a good guitar, and you really have to do your research if you are a beginner and want to make an informed decision... starting this thread was a good idea
 
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