New Crue cd done completely with Digidesign Eleven

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Metal from the Heartland
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From the upcoming EQ mag (http://www.eqmag.com/article/james-michael-choses/jun-08/36241):

As a producer, engineer, and songwriter, James Michael has worked with artists ranging from Motley Crue, Meat Loaf, and the Scorpions to Deana Carter, Hilary Duff, and Alanis Morissette. As a singer and multi-instrumentalist, Michael is a member of rock band Sixx:A.M., with Motley Crue bassist Nikki Sixx and DJ Ashba. Most recently, Michael completed production of the new Sixx:AM album, followed by the latest Motley Crue release, Saints of Los Angeles. Both projects were recorded and produced with his ICON-controlled Pro Tools|HD® system, and all the guitar tracks for the Motley Crue album were created using Digidesign’s newly-released Eleven™ guitar amp emulation plug-in.

“Eleven has really changed everything for people like myself who work extensively with guitar sounds,” says Michael. “We’ve seen the potential for years with small preamps and amp emulation plug-ins, but Eleven is the first plug-in that can honestly replace the guitar amp. It really, truly sounds like the amps it claims to emulate. Many of the older plug-ins are a bit too perfect, but Eleven captures all the little imperfections of those vintage amps. And the microphone emulations are just stunning. I can close my eyes and toggle through them, and it’s just amazing how accurate they are.”

Listening to Michael, it’s clear he’s a true aficionado of vintage tube technology. “When I did the Scorpions album, we spent a fortune on renting a bunch of vintage amps,” he recalls. “It’s a great sound, but the result was always a bit hit or miss. That’s the nature of tubes. Sometimes a particular amp is exactly the sound you’re looking for; other times, it’s just not quite
. And most of the time, there’s no guarantee you can get that same sound the next day. Sometimes the sound changes even while you’re working, and you’re just praying for 20 minutes more with the same sound. Now I can honestly say those days are over — I’ve got Eleven.”

From a producer’s perspective, Michael says that Eleven offers a level of flexibility that was never an option when recording traditional mic’d guitar amps. “Eleven [along with Pro Tools] gives me a lot more control over the editing process. I can really zoom in on the waveform of a guitar part. More importantly, it gives me the ability to change a part in the context of the mix. Lots of times you work hard to build up a nice musical bed, then you pop the vocal in and it just doesn’t work; maybe you need to try a different cabinet or room mic, whatever. Now I can do that. I can make changes right up until mastering. It’s really a dream come true.”

You can also stream the whole cd at iheartmusic.com to check it out.​
 
checked out the Eleven page, and it doesn't sound too shabby, though, I still don't think I'll ditch Revalver Mk II just yet.

And I'm sure the hard rock they get from Eleven fit da Crue just fine.
 
I've tried Eleven. It lacks the width and gain of a real amp, and is subject to sounding fizzy just like any other modeler. The speaker breakup feature sounds fairly convincing in a way, though. Probably fine for clean to mid gain stuff, like many other modelers.

But good luck coming anywhere close to a real Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier tone with it. And good luck to Mötley Crüe at coming anywhere near the massive guitar sound they got on their best album - the 1994 self-titled release with John Corabi on lead vocals.

I'll stick with my ENGL e530 and impulses as the best way to get album-ready tone without actually miking up a cabinet.
 
The production on the self titled with Corabi is one of the best rock and roll productions ever...the drums , bass and guitars sound massive and Corabi did an awesome job ...underrated disc
 
Yep...one of my faves. It's the only Crue album I can still listen to without cringing. Let's just say I'm not a fan of Vince Neil.
 
Oh god no thanks. I'm a Girls, Girls, Girls fan 'til the end. On the original subject: "Eleven is cool. Revalver MKIII is way better."
 
Eleven is pretty damn good, its too expensive though.
I mostly use StudioDevil VGA though. I did beta testing for them and got it for FREE! its only $79 I think though. Its good enough for demo stuff.
What you guys should check out it Softube Metal Amp Room, there's a 10 day trial if you have an iLok. It sounds wicked for drop tuned guitars.
 
Hi,
When I heard the new Crue album I thought the guitar sound was MASSIVE but there was something missing.... it didn't sound like an amp. I mean the bass of it was unheard of (I remember telling my bandmates that they must have blended some kind of synth in there somehow !). And now I hear it's a plugin. Well, that figures then. As for those of us who are into the heavier stuff Softube's Metal Amp Room is quite convincing. You can check out my clip at http://www.softube.se/metal_amp_room.php?p=mar_sounddemos and click on the clip "by Athanasios Karapanos".




Regards,
akarawd

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We are talking about the production on the Self Titled album, it's just unreal. Any of you guys have heard anything like that after 1994? Randy Staub is a genius.
 
jauernis,

According to the latest issue of Drum! magazine, Tommy says he used BFD (in part) for his drum sounds:

The drums on Saints of Los Angeles pack a wallop, somehow managing to sound both monstrous and warm. And that had nothing to do with a 40" anything.
"We just used great sources," he explains. "Everything from some acoustic drums to this program called BFD - or Big F**king Drums - just a great, great software with great ambience and great samples, which we stacked on top of the acoustic sound."