indeed they are. imo they don't get half the attention they deserve. why is that? is the metal community not ready to hear clean vocals or mellow parts in metal? i dunno.... thoughts?
opeth underrated?
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Slayed Necros
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Windom Pearl
HUGGY!!!!
Most of the people I've ever heard say they don't like Opeth is because (to me) they didn't want to give it a chance after they heard the first clean vocals and mellow part. God forbid metal have some fkn harmony. 
That or they're pissed that their favorite band from Sweden isn't as favored.
That or they're pissed that their favorite band from Sweden isn't as favored.
barny
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Ermz
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Well from all the interviews I've read, they're overrated if anything. I mean, don't get me wrong here, I love Opeth, but the interviews and reviews just seem to go on like there's absolutely no faults at all in their music...
svenske kocken
oompa loompa doopity doo
What? The metal community has heard clean vocals since late sixties when the first albums by Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were released. Hey, here´s a load of bands with clean vocals. Heard of them?
Black Sabbath
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Saxon
Manowar
Mötley Crüe
WASP
Helloween
Running Wild
Accept
Slayer
Metallica
Led Zeppelin
HammerFall
Nevermore
Blind Guardian
Gamma Ray
Dream Theater
Fates Warning
Scorpions
Mercyful Fate
King Diamond
Freedom Call
Rhapsody
Evergrey
Queensrÿche
random_phil
Bigley's head
Parasite
Captain Evil
Illiterate idiots don't read Greek literature in original.
Most of metal music is on the level of romance stories printed in magazines for housewives.
ok, so how many of those bands have clean vocals that sound like "THEEERRE IS NO FORGIVNESS IN THEEESE EEEEYES"... just to name one. you know, something that doesn't sound "evil"...
SentencedToBurn
Dubbs
nearly all those bands you mentioned are the 80s type corny singing (which is good..... but... um.... well, cheesy)
svenske kocken
oompa loompa doopity doo
Nearly all those bands I mentioned are the 80s type singing, yes. And you think there is something wrong with that kind of vocals, like Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, Mikael Kiske, Eric Adams, Blackie Lawless (if you know who these vocalists are)? Poor bastard. Maybe there is something wrong with the music from bands like Maiden, Priest, WASP, Mercyful Fate, King Diamond too? Poor bastard. I´m not really fond of people who complain on good old heavy metal. I also felt ashamed for listening to 80s metal once, but trust me - you get over it. Soon you will realise how wonderful that good old fashioned heavy metal is. Okunniga historielösa jävlar, vad vore dagens hårdrock utan de gamla banden? Inget.
Ok, so Bruce Dickinson sound evil?
SentencedToBurn
Dubbs
i wasnt complaining about the singing dude. im just saying its a diffrent type of singing style then opeth. most people who listen to those bands maybe wouldnt like the style of opeth. i know about 80s metal so dont start preaching.
I don't think Opeth is underrated att all. BWP sold very good and with the new label, they got more promotion than ever before...If they'd had that much promotional support when Morningrise was released, they would be huge today! I still remember the day when Morningrise was released, memories...damn it was good! Still is though...
Originally posted by svenske kocken
Ok, so Bruce Dickinson sound evil?
no, becuase he's not metal!
Morningrise
...I am just thin air...
I think they are definately not underrated and deserve all the praise they get, which is definately a lot!
Sadistik
Let me die in solitude...
If anything, Opeth is OVER-rated...not that I think thats a bad thing, but it means that very few people are willing to be extremely critical of them...they are considered the best at a lot of things...
As to why the band isn't currently (Dare I use the word...) 'mainstream', and particularily regarding the vocals, I believe it has to do with the mix of soft and harsh vocals.....
I'm going to try and look at the bigger picture and suggest that 'Tr00' metalheads can't or won't get past the soft vocal passages (though heaven knows why), while your more common musical enthusiast (who doesn't nescessarily even like metal flips out when Mikael's vocals go even slightly above a whisper (exageratted a bit, I'll admit, but still pretty close to the mark none the less. I've seen this with 'non-metal' friend I try to introduce to the genre as gently as possible. The don't even have the patience to wait for the soft vocals, which I insist are there, to kick in....
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Unfortunately, Opeth can't seem to have the best of both worlds.... I'd make a fairly well educated guess that if Opeth dropped either thier soft or hard vocals, their fan base would pick up amongst the respective market (ie: Lots more 'metalhead' fans if they keep the Death Vox, Lots more 'Normal' fans if they keep the soft.)
Of course if they were to do this, most of us here would riot in the streets in revolt, as one of the key ingreedients as to what makes Opeth rock is the balance between soft/hard Vox/instrumentals.....You guys agree.
And as for some people here thinking Opeth are overated I have a possible theory whic hmight explain why you would think so, but I can't substantiate it till I bring it up in a thread (preferaby a new one) to test it....
To simplify it, I think it's possible that Opeth might be a ....'fans-band' for want of a better word, as opposed to a 'musicians band'. I hear a lot of people (including Mikael on occasion) say that technically, Opeth are not a top notch band. For this reason other musicians will pick up on 'errors' in technique and critise the band...... Myself on the other hand, not knowing the first thing about playing an instrument (well ok, maybe a little) only looks at the bigger picture... which leads me to believe that Opeth are nearly Unparalled in this part of the industry. I'm talking about the over all composition of the tracks, and albums. It hard to put into words really, suffice to say It's a combination of ALL aspects of music...
In this sense of the word, bands like Dream Theatre (which I think rock by the way) are polar opposites, having a number of 'vituosos' (for their respective instument) in the band. It's for this reason that I believe other musicians like their work, as they recognise the technical expertise required to play a riff/drum solo, etc....
This is actually simplifying what in my head a little, as it's a little hard to explain specifically in words what I'm thinking.
Anyways, feel free to ponder, and hit me back if you have any Q's.
I'm going to try and look at the bigger picture and suggest that 'Tr00' metalheads can't or won't get past the soft vocal passages (though heaven knows why), while your more common musical enthusiast (who doesn't nescessarily even like metal flips out when Mikael's vocals go even slightly above a whisper (exageratted a bit, I'll admit, but still pretty close to the mark none the less. I've seen this with 'non-metal' friend I try to introduce to the genre as gently as possible. The don't even have the patience to wait for the soft vocals, which I insist are there, to kick in....
)Unfortunately, Opeth can't seem to have the best of both worlds.... I'd make a fairly well educated guess that if Opeth dropped either thier soft or hard vocals, their fan base would pick up amongst the respective market (ie: Lots more 'metalhead' fans if they keep the Death Vox, Lots more 'Normal' fans if they keep the soft.)
Of course if they were to do this, most of us here would riot in the streets in revolt, as one of the key ingreedients as to what makes Opeth rock is the balance between soft/hard Vox/instrumentals.....You guys agree.
And as for some people here thinking Opeth are overated I have a possible theory whic hmight explain why you would think so, but I can't substantiate it till I bring it up in a thread (preferaby a new one) to test it....
To simplify it, I think it's possible that Opeth might be a ....'fans-band' for want of a better word, as opposed to a 'musicians band'. I hear a lot of people (including Mikael on occasion) say that technically, Opeth are not a top notch band. For this reason other musicians will pick up on 'errors' in technique and critise the band...... Myself on the other hand, not knowing the first thing about playing an instrument (well ok, maybe a little) only looks at the bigger picture... which leads me to believe that Opeth are nearly Unparalled in this part of the industry. I'm talking about the over all composition of the tracks, and albums. It hard to put into words really, suffice to say It's a combination of ALL aspects of music...
In this sense of the word, bands like Dream Theatre (which I think rock by the way) are polar opposites, having a number of 'vituosos' (for their respective instument) in the band. It's for this reason that I believe other musicians like their work, as they recognise the technical expertise required to play a riff/drum solo, etc....
This is actually simplifying what in my head a little, as it's a little hard to explain specifically in words what I'm thinking.
Anyways, feel free to ponder, and hit me back if you have any Q's.
