Outlaw Religion
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Blackspirit
there are no words left
Brutalizer
Troll #2
TyrantOfFlames
Of Chaos and Order
You know better than that. The vast majority of the population is very attatched to religion, and would go virtually insane without it. Not to mention the martyrs and extreme religious rioting/jihads. That would be very bad.
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
We need to concentrate all our technological resources towards the effort of making religion obsolete. Religion is the root of all evil.
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
Last week on Fox News Sunday, the host Tony Snow did this retarded monologue at the end about how great it is that everyone has returned to God after the terrorist attack.
He actually said this: "The 20th century was the 'God is dead' century, which brought us totalitarian dictatorships, world wars, and a general sense of cynicism and demoralization."
OH MY GOD. I've never been so stunned at the irresponsible media in my life. Have you ever heard a more blatantly false, laughable quote?!
A *lack* of religious faith brought us wars???? What does he think the reason for this current "war" is?!
And unfortunately, I couldn't just turn it off...it's one of the shows I have to make transcripts of for work. errr.
He actually said this: "The 20th century was the 'God is dead' century, which brought us totalitarian dictatorships, world wars, and a general sense of cynicism and demoralization."
OH MY GOD. I've never been so stunned at the irresponsible media in my life. Have you ever heard a more blatantly false, laughable quote?!
A *lack* of religious faith brought us wars???? What does he think the reason for this current "war" is?! And unfortunately, I couldn't just turn it off...it's one of the shows I have to make transcripts of for work. errr.
TyrantOfFlames
Of Chaos and Order
That is pretty ignorant of Tony Snow to say. But what would the world be without a little passion rooted in religion? There really aren't many things people get passionate about, and I happen to think that passion is a good thing...wish I could feel it. Anyone here been really really passionate about something? If so, would you describe it for me? (I am fascinated with how it must feel...im a romantic, what can I say?)
I see your anger Lina, a vast majority of wars can be routed back to religious conflict. It is because (and I have said this before) people vest their very existence in their God and faith, people will do absolutely anything in name of their faith. I think we need to rid the world of institutions and ideas that people are infinitely devoted to.
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
It would be a world where common sense ruled, not illogical, out-of-date beliefs. Except I suppose people would find another way to act like fools.
You mean passionate people like bin Laden, McVeigh, Koresh, Kaczynski, Hitler? Passion in itself is not necessarily good. All too often it's synonymous with irrational extremism.
I suppose you could say I'm passionate about my beliefs -- meaning that I hold them strongly and get riled up when talking to someone who disagrees. But obviously I wouldn't take it to the level the above-mentioned people have...probably just because I'm too lazy, though.
Wars would happen regardless.
People will be passionate about things regardless.
Religion is an inherent component of humankind and her spirituality. It would seed somewhere and prosper regardless (like a floral paradise, or a swampy sulfuric jungle depending on your point of view)
People will be captious and bitter and resentful and hateful regardless.
There is no escape from these constants that plague the human condition.
One things cancels out the other and gives birth to the other. In the meantime I do what i can to appreciate what is good in life, even in religion.
People will be passionate about things regardless.
Religion is an inherent component of humankind and her spirituality. It would seed somewhere and prosper regardless (like a floral paradise, or a swampy sulfuric jungle depending on your point of view)
People will be captious and bitter and resentful and hateful regardless.
There is no escape from these constants that plague the human condition.
One things cancels out the other and gives birth to the other. In the meantime I do what i can to appreciate what is good in life, even in religion.
HoserHellspawn
Pixel Manipulator
X has a point.
I've often said that although racism will eventually eliminate itself (via several thousand years from now cross-breeding resulting in all of us being one muddy light brown - this is, of course, if we make it that long) prejudice will exist forever, because it's an inherent part of humanity. We will always find things with which to divide ourselves and fight over, and to that extent, outlawing religion will not eliminate war.
However... (carefully stepping over fence)
To utilize a Satori quote I've read enough times I don't need to find, copy and paste, "religion is a political tool", and it certainly makes a whole bunch of shit a lot easier to manipulate. Although it could never eliminate war or sex crimes (another George Carlin quote: "you could outlaw religion and a lot of these sex crimes would go away in a few generations... but we don't have time for rational solutions!") it would certainly reduce the presence thereof and make it much more difficult for people to be manipulated into thinking that killing a bunch of people (be it via swords and crucifix-adorned shields, inquisitions, witch burnings, or 767's) would be a good idea.
Overall, I think it's a good step forward, although not the ultimate solution to all the world's problems. Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible. We have to hope we evolve beyind it...
I've often said that although racism will eventually eliminate itself (via several thousand years from now cross-breeding resulting in all of us being one muddy light brown - this is, of course, if we make it that long) prejudice will exist forever, because it's an inherent part of humanity. We will always find things with which to divide ourselves and fight over, and to that extent, outlawing religion will not eliminate war.
However... (carefully stepping over fence)
To utilize a Satori quote I've read enough times I don't need to find, copy and paste, "religion is a political tool", and it certainly makes a whole bunch of shit a lot easier to manipulate. Although it could never eliminate war or sex crimes (another George Carlin quote: "you could outlaw religion and a lot of these sex crimes would go away in a few generations... but we don't have time for rational solutions!") it would certainly reduce the presence thereof and make it much more difficult for people to be manipulated into thinking that killing a bunch of people (be it via swords and crucifix-adorned shields, inquisitions, witch burnings, or 767's) would be a good idea.
Overall, I think it's a good step forward, although not the ultimate solution to all the world's problems. Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible. We have to hope we evolve beyind it...
Russell
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They wouldn't tho, u would start to have underground religions etc., it would be impossible to ban such an integral part of society. Therefore this is a bit of a reduntant question
But I think you'd find without religion, society would become..... a lot worse than now. I think many people NEED religion or they would totally go off the rails, yes that doesn't apply to many people here, but it does to many people, and i think that would have a drastic effect
hibernal_dream
A Mind Forever Voyaging
I guess religion CAN be beneficial.... but its only when people try to enforce their views on others when things start to go wrong
Anthony
criminal
Why would they go insane without it?
So many people only believe because they don't know any other way, and so many people today do NOT believe.
However you cannot forbid people to believe in something. The problem is those that can't tolerate that someone else believes differently from themselves. In a way, it would be simplest if all cultures were sealed off from each other. But that is not the case and so we have to deal with what we have.
well, can we blame religion for everything, aren't we just using it as a scape goat for all the trouble caused??
No on both accounts.
Of course we can't blame religion, but certainly "differences" and they happen to be based on religion (which is very often the case, right?).
I don't think we are using religion as a scape goat, we don't have to. Doesn't many people clearly see the differences and problems it causes? Nevertheless most everyone seems willing to hang on to it. I guess that is because we've only learned to say "they are different" not "WE are different". And usually different equals WRONG. Our point of reference is naturally subjective.
well if it is religion then we live in a fucked up, stupid world, and we all deserve to die so that a new race can exist that is better than this one. (oh, hang on i just realised, these are the thoughts of people like Hitler
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