Would it be worth it to switch over to M-powered Protools or should I just stick with my current DAW, Reaper?
What's your opinion?
Thanks!
What's your opinion?
Thanks!
Picking up a Profire 2626 so....
- Thread starter Sean in Silence
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If you wanna pay through the nose for all the plugs you'd wanna use with M-Powered, then knock yourself out! Otherwise I'd stick with Reaper and free/cheap VST's 
(though it probably would be a good idea to get M-Powered to start getting comfortable with it, I think every AE should be basically competent in PT, even if they're only planning on recording themselves - after all, you never know when you might wanna rent some time for your band in a nice studio!)
(though it probably would be a good idea to get M-Powered to start getting comfortable with it, I think every AE should be basically competent in PT, even if they're only planning on recording themselves - after all, you never know when you might wanna rent some time for your band in a nice studio!)
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
AdamWathan
Member
Depends on what sort of work you generally do. If you are recording full bands and need something for tracking/editing/mixing, Pro Tools is the way to go. If you are mostly programming drums, composing your own stuff, or doing home demos, Reaper is great. I still prefer mixing in Reaper to Pro Tools to be honest, but I love me my Massey plugins so I have no choice. Reaper is a great piece of software but it is very slow and cumbersome when it comes to down and dirty multitrack (hell even single track) editing. A lot of the simplest editing features in Pro Tools (copy and paste for example) can take more than twice as many steps to accomplish in Reaper depending on the situation.
I have always been an avid Reaper madman but had to switch when I started recording a lot of full bands and realized the editing was just too slow. After trying out some other DAWs, Pro Tools was the only one where everything seemed to work the way I would've made it work if I was programming my own DAW.
I have always been an avid Reaper madman but had to switch when I started recording a lot of full bands and realized the editing was just too slow. After trying out some other DAWs, Pro Tools was the only one where everything seemed to work the way I would've made it work if I was programming my own DAW.
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
I'll probably be setting up a multiboot with Win 7 x64 and XP x86 just to be able to continue using M-Powered. I wish I wouldn't have to, but alas... I just got me the VST to RTAS adapter a few weeks ago and it has been working so flawlessly.
Ooh, forgot about that...I have heard of there being bugs with some plugs, but that's cool that it's working great for you thus far dude!
AND WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR NAME, by the way? I'm sick of calling you slash
AND WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR NAME, by the way? I'm sick of calling you slash
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
If you wanna pay through the nose for all the plugs you'd wanna use with M-Powered, then knock yourself out! Otherwise I'd stick with Reaper and free/cheap VST's
That's why when I get my 2626 I will try PT too.
Anyway, I wanna ask my question here instead of creating a thread :
They say on the MAudio site that they recommand a Texas Instrument 1394a Firewire port. Do you know which good one I can buy if there is any that is recommended, or do you recommend sticking to some noname brand for a firewire port ? I know nothing about firewire, I never had one, so I don't know
I'm running Mac OSX 10.5.
So I'll be doing lots of full band recording as well as just composing at home.
What plugins would I need to buy for Protools?
I also want to add that for whatever reason Reaper crashes VERY consistently on my computer :/
Multiple times a session....
So I'll be doing lots of full band recording as well as just composing at home.
What plugins would I need to buy for Protools?
I also want to add that for whatever reason Reaper crashes VERY consistently on my computer :/
Multiple times a session....
I just bought the Waves Renaissance Maxx Collection earlier this week and I'm really pleased so far. Everything from Waves is 35% off this month, so now is a good time to buy if you are going to.
And this is probably because of the first line of this same post I'm sorry to say! If you're on a Mac, then yeah, that changes things, cuz there of course aren't as many cool free Mac VST's, so you might as well just go PTMP IMO!
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
Ooh, forgot about that...I have heard of there being bugs with some plugs, but that's cool that it's working great for you thus far dude!
AND WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR NAME, by the way? I'm sick of calling you slash
Haha... I'm David (even with the English spelling).
I just stick up to my youthful transgressions and don't change my username.
@ Sean in Silence: PTs stock plugins are quite useful. Before you start investing into some other third party plugs, you might want to consider going for the Music Production Toolkit first to get increased track count, multitrack beat detective, TL Space etc.
AdamWathan
Member
Aside from the PT stock plugins and the ones included with MPTK 2, the only plugins I have bought or am even interested in buying are Massey CT4, Massey Tapehead, Massey L2007, Metric Halo Channel Strip and McDSP Analog Channel. I'm 99% sure if those were the only plugins in existence I would be fine and would have nothing to complain about.
Isn't that close to a grand in plugs Adam? I mean, I'm sure they're worth it, but I love how you say "the only things I've bought" like it's nothing (by the way, what has become of your copy of Logic? )
Hahaha, right on dude, Metaltastic 4 lyf!!!!!:Spin:uke:
(by the way, what has become of your copy of Logic? )Haha... I'm David (even with the English spelling).
I just stick up to my youthful transgressions and don't change my username.
Hahaha, right on dude, Metaltastic 4 lyf!!!!!
:Spin:uke:
Thanks a lot man!
looks like I'm going to have to look more into that Music Production Toolkit too.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
I'm pretty much with Adam here. When it comes to plugins, ProTools has pretty nice stock plugins. Apart from the stock ones I frequently use IK's Pultec EQ and some of their vintage compressors when I need some different flavors, BitterSweet (which is a free Transient Designer type of plugin) and Mellowmuse IR1A for convolution. Other things you might miss are a drum replacer (can't wait for Slate Digital Trigger!) and a multiband comp, though it doesn't hurt to learn how to use a single band's sidechain to achieve same results!
AdamWathan
Member
Isn't that close to a grand in plugs Adam? I mean, I'm sure they're worth it, but I love how you say "the only things I've bought" like it's nothing
Hahaha, right on dude, Metaltastic 4 lyf!!!!!
Yeah it's definitely a handful of cash but that's what plugins cost whether you are using Pro Tools or not, except of course in the free VST world but personally I would rather pay for 5 plugins that I know are quality than sift through a billion freeware VSTs to find something I like.
I've still got Logic, should probably sell it but as much as I despise it with every shred of my being, part of me wants to hold on to it just in case. It definitely has it's place.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
That's the conclusion I came to, too. And after starting to actually buy plugins when I went legit (yes, I have fiddled around with warez way back, never made any money with it though) and switched to PT which limited the amount of free stuff available, I soon realized I was learning to use the tools I have rather than playing around with a plugin for a while, decided it's not good and switched to another one. When you pay for a tool, you're going to want to use it to it's full potential.
I agree completely, but that's why I go for the inexpensive ones
(by companies such as Voxengo, Apulsoft, etc.,)
