Quorthon/James Hetfield

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I'm a huge fan of both Bathory and Metallica. In the past, James has said that he listens to Bathory and Q has said in interviews that he did not listen to any extreme music after 1983 or so.

But, anyone noticed that the outros of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "Home of Once Brave" are exactly the same? It's not like it's a common musical idea. Bells was out in 85, whereas the Bathory song was out in 89... perhaps Q was not telling the whole truth. Also, there is a part on "The Wheel of Sun" (from the Nordland II album) that sounds distinctly similar to a section on "Call of Ktulu"...

Has anyone else noticed this/could offer any kind of explanation?


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Hail the hordes
 
Probably had a lot to do with Lars and his appreciation at that time
European metal coming out in the late 70's and early 80's but that might
be a guess. BTW I am huge Bathory fan as well not only his BM years
but his awesome epic viking metal cds as well. Hail Quorthon RIP!
 
"People like Marilyn Manson, Billy Corgan and the members of Metallica have all come up to me and have told me that they listened to BATHORY."

That was quoted from Jonas Akerlund, who founded Bathory with Forsberg.

I think St Anger sounds like a steaming pile of mung.
 
KMADD said:
Probably had a lot to do with Lars and his appreciation at that time
European metal coming out in the late 70's and early 80's but that might
be a guess. BTW I am huge Bathory fan as well not only his BM years
but his awesome epic viking metal cds as well. Hail Quorthon RIP!
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Well Hammerheart came out 4 years after Ride the Lightning so it can't have been Metallica's version influenced by Bathory.. I think perhaps Quorthon might have done this unintentionally after hearing the Metallica song somewhere...

With regards to the epic Viking albums, they are certainly FAR superior to the first 2 albums (Under the Sign is incredible though). In my opinion, there couldn't have been a better song for Q to go out on than "The Wheel of Sun". Its dramatic, epic and magnificent effect at the end of the entire Nordland saga is like the final immense culmination of Quorthon's life when you listen to it. RIP Quorthon.
 
son_of_northern_darkness said:
I'm a huge fan of both Bathory and Metallica. In the past, James has said that he listens to Bathory and Q has said in interviews that he did not listen to any extreme music after 1983 or so.

But, anyone noticed that the outros of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "Home of Once Brave" are exactly the same? It's not like it's a common musical idea. Bells was out in 85, whereas the Bathory song was out in 89... perhaps Q was not telling the whole truth. Also, there is a part on "The Wheel of Sun" (from the Nordland II album) that sounds distinctly similar to a section on "Call of Ktulu"...

Has anyone else noticed this/could offer any kind of explanation?


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Hail the hordes
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Really? Interesting. I got to listen to those Bathory songs to find this all out myself.
 
son_of_northern_darkness said:
That was quoted from Jonas Akerlund, who founded Bathory with Forsberg.

I think St Anger sounds like a steaming pile of mung.
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No one founded Bathory with Quorthon... Bathory was pretty much all Q... especially in the beginning... though he did hire a couple of musicians here and there for promo photo shots... as for the St. Anger reference.... yup i agree on that... with pretty much all their albums after MOP.. though AJFA and the Black album have their moments...
 
son_of_northern_darkness said:
Well Hammerheart came out 4 years after Ride the Lightning so it can't have been Metallica's version influenced by Bathory.. I think perhaps Quorthon might have done this unintentionally after hearing the Metallica song somewhere...

With regards to the epic Viking albums, they are certainly FAR superior to the first 2 albums (Under the Sign is incredible though). In my opinion, there couldn't have been a better song for Q to go out on than "The Wheel of Sun". Its dramatic, epic and magnificent effect at the end of the entire Nordland saga is like the final immense culmination of Quorthon's life when you listen to it. RIP Quorthon.
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No man Im talking about the S/T album that came out in 83 and The Return
that came out in 84 or 85? His first 3 cds were of a black metal variety
hell him and Venom, Mercyful Fate practically invented black metal.
 
Yeah I'm aware of that (Bathory was '84 by the way, The Return was '85), but I'm talking specifically about the outro of "Home of Once Brave", it is the same as the outro on "For Whom the Bell Tolls". Anyway, I don't think anyone will ever produce the answer. Maybe if I ever meet James & Lars I will ask them...
 
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