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Ozzy writes Rasputin musical?
That Russian bastid was one degerate...
Ozzy writes Rasputin musical?
That Russian bastid was one degerate...
Rasputin
- Thread starter sixxswine
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From Blabbermouth:
"Osbourne is working on a musical about controversial Russian politician Grigory Rasputin"
Bunch of misinformed dicks! Rasputin was a monk that claimed to be a faith healer. The only son of the Romanovs, Alexis, had Hemophilia and he claimed he could heal him. The Tsarina Alexandra trusted him completely and thus the Evil Monk gained a lot of power. Until his opponents murdered him.
More here:
http://www.eurohistory.com/Rasputin.html
The important thing here however, is that he was never a politician. Just a thieving lying fake. O wait that sounds like a politician!!
"Osbourne is working on a musical about controversial Russian politician Grigory Rasputin"
Bunch of misinformed dicks! Rasputin was a monk that claimed to be a faith healer. The only son of the Romanovs, Alexis, had Hemophilia and he claimed he could heal him. The Tsarina Alexandra trusted him completely and thus the Evil Monk gained a lot of power. Until his opponents murdered him.
More here:
http://www.eurohistory.com/Rasputin.html
The important thing here however, is that he was never a politician. Just a thieving lying fake. O wait that sounds like a politician!!
#1_Droogie
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#1_Droogie said:he might have been a thieving, lying fake.....but he sure got lots of women!!
Thats true
Cool that you are playing Anacrusis. The RULE!!
#1_Droogie
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Hawk, seeing as you're the big history buff....mind giving a little info about Rasputin's death?? I've heard a couple different things.....like he was beat, shot several times......and still didnt die so they had to drown him!
any info would be much appreciated!
any info would be much appreciated!
Yeah, HAwk I heard he was lynched by a mob of people. He was the blue print for the TV Evangelists of today...
How he took control of the Royal family in Russia.
I think they were Royalty, I guess I have to go back & do my homework...
How he took control of the Royal family in Russia.
I think they were Royalty, I guess I have to go back & do my homework...
sixxswine said:
No need Sixx the answer is right here.
From: http://www.eurohistory.com/Rasputin.html
The first decade of Alexandra's life in Russia were married by the continued absence of a male heir. The second decade of her life among the Romanovs was devastated by the disease that martyred her only son. When hemophilia first manifested itself in Alexis, Nicholas wrote in his diary that "it was a dreadful thing to have to live through such anxiety." By the time Alexis was one year old, he again was afflicted by a more serious bleeding episode. The imperial couple's anxiety was accentuated by doctors who told them they "had to realize that the heir apparent will never be cured of this disease. The attacks of hemophilia will recur now and then..."
In the midst of this tragedy within the imperial family, Rasputin returned to
St. Petersburg after a two-year hiatus. Initially, Rasputin moved prudently in the Russian capital's aristocratic circles. He tried, unsuccessfully, to restrain his debauched, womanizing ways, yet temptation was overwhelming. Within months, Rasputin, the saintly sinner, had achieved recognition and a small following in St. Petersburg. Besides gaining the friendship of Grand Duchess Militza and Anastasia, Rasputin also gained the trust of Anna Vyrubova, Empress Alexandra's trusted companion. It was under the recommendation of the Grand Duchesses and Anna Vyrubova that Rasputin was summoned to appear before Alexandra.
Rasputin managed to bring calm and hope into the lives of Nicholas and Alexandra. Most importantly, the staretz [The official title of Rasputin] was capable of putting a stop to the Alexis' bleedings. Many people have tried to explain the nature of Rasputin's power over the poor little boy. Some have claimed that Rasputin did indeed have holy powers. Others, believe that Rasputin was able to hypnotize Alexis and therefore cause the bleedings to stop. However Rasputin managed to stop Alexis' suffering, the truth of the matter was that he gained Nicholas and Alexandra's undivided support.
As the monk's star rose in St. Petersburg, so did the number of his enemies.
Many of the Orthodox clergymen who had initially supported Rasputin became skeptical about his relationship with the imperial couple. St. Petersburg society also failed to understand the bonds that brought Rasputin into such close proximity to the throne. Nicholas and Alexandra had refused to inform their subjects about Alexis' sickness, thus it baffled many to see the imperial couple in dealings with such a lecherous rake as Rasputin. Soon enough, the rumor mills of St. Petersburg accused Alexandra of being romantically, and even sexually involved with the monk. More pernicious gossips even extended the rumors to include the couple's four daughters who supposedly had become Rasputin's sex toys. It is inconceivable that someone as upright and unbending as Alexandra would have ever considered such vile behavior. Yet it is also inconceivable that the rumors were allowed to continued while the reputation of the imperial couple fell to pieces. No one was more responsible for the growing rumors than Rasputin himself. During his many drunken parties, the monk would boast of his exploits with the Empress and her daughters, even going as far as proclaiming that the Tsar was at his fingertips.
Nicholas's secret police quickly informed the Tsar of these rumors.
A penitent Rasputin was summoned to appear before the infuriated Tsar,
but Alexandra defended the staretz. Nicholas punished Rasputin by sending
him back to the provinces, but no sooner had Rasputin left when another
bleeding crisis almost killed Alexis. Rasputin's influence over the boy
guaranteed the monk's return to St. Petersburg. His position within the
imperial circle was never again challenged. Alexandra grew completely
dependent on the man, who not only became her son's faith healer, but also the Empress' confidant. The evil monk's presence among the Tsar and
his family would further alienate them from the capital and all those
circles that had traditionally been the mainstay of tsarism. Nicholas
and Alexandra were doomed from that point on.
#1_Droogie said:Hawk, seeing as you're the big history buff....mind giving a little info about Rasputin's death?? I've heard a couple different things...like he was beat, shot several times......and still didnt die so they had to drown him! any info would be much appreciated!
Again from: http://www.eurohistory.com/Rasputin.html
Frustrated by their inability to break down the walls built by Nicholas and
Alexandra, some members of the Romanov family took events into their own hands. How many of the Romanovs were involved in the actual plotting to assassinate Rasputin will never be known for certain. What is widely accepted is that the Tsar's cousin, Grand Duke Dimitri Pavlovich and Prince Felix Youssoupov, husband of Nicholas II's niece Princess Irina Alexandrovna of Russia, were among the leaders of the plot to strike against Rasputin. The monk, always frustrated by the Romanov's opposition to his role in Russia, was invited by Youssoupov to attend an evening gathering at his vast Petrograd palace.
Felix promised Rasputin that his wife Irina would be there to greet him.
The monk fell in the trap and willingly arrived at the Youssoupov palace
in the evening of December 16, 1916. He did not survive the evening.
Several excellent books recount in detail the events that took place at
the Youssoupov palace, among them Greg King's "The Man Who Killed Rasputin, "Alex de Yonge's "Rasputin," Robert K. Massie's monumental "Nicholas and Alexandra," and Prince Felix Youssoupov's "Lost Splendour." During the fateful last evening of Rasputin's life, the conspirators drugged, poisoned, beat and shot him.
Yet the staretz survived all these and actually died by drowning when his body, wrapped in a carpet was thrown into the Moika Canal on the Neva River.
By the morrow Prince Felix Youssoupov was under questioning by the Petrograd police. So messy had been the assassins that proof of their deed was found all over the Youssoupov palace. Within hours of the report concerning Rasputin's disappearance, the Petrograd police by orders of Alexandra, forbid the conspirators from leaving the Russian capital. As soon as he received news of events in Petrograd Nicholas boarded his train and hurriedly returned to the capital. Rasputin's corpse was discovered under the ice of the Neva on December 19. The fury and outrage expressed by Nicholas and Alexandra knew no bounds as they sought to punish all
of the conspirators. At the same time, news of Rasputin's death caused widespread eruptions of rapture in Petrograd. Dimitri and Felix were heralded as heroes and many believed that the "alleged" German influence represented by Alexandra was going to stop.
While the Petrograd elite enjoyed their supposed liberation from Rasputin's clutches, the vast majority of the Russian population saw the events in a completely different light. For 80% of the Russian population Rasputin was a "man of the people." He was their hope that the imperial couple would never forget the plight of the peasantry. His assassination at the hands of aristocrats, and even members of the imperial family, robbed the upper classes of much support among the inhabitants of their estates.
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#1_Droogie
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Hawk, you know what, it's kinda cool that my two sons are getting into history lately.
The watch stuff on the history channel, ect. We were watching shows on The American Civil War, Atilla, Alexander the Great & Wyatt Erp, ect.
It's trip.
The watch stuff on the history channel, ect. We were watching shows on The American Civil War, Atilla, Alexander the Great & Wyatt Erp, ect.
It's trip.
sixxswine said:
Thats great news 6. How old are they? A good grasp of history can broaden their understanding of the world around them.
Keep me informed!
Yeah, my middle son is 6 soon to be 7, next week is the birthday.Hawk said:Thats great news 6. How old are they? A good grasp of history can broaden their understanding of the world around them.
Keep me informed!
My oldest son is 11 years old, he will begin Middle School next year, which is the 6th grade... The youngest is a girl, she's 5...
It's amazing how they can retain all this information, they can throw out dates & years, when events happened, it's a real kick...
Both speak Spanish & English, I'd love for them to learn another language if they'd like to. It's cool that they learn more than just American history, Mexican history, but the world as a whole....
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