Religion Amongst Metalheads

[MaxJonas]

After all these years, I can finally say something about religion, too. I have a great attitude to Nordic etymology, I've been dreaming to visit the Nordic countries for a long time and get to know such representatives of this direction. I myself have exchanged knowledge with them, I like that I can share what I study myself. Please note, I do not impose my vision. I like to share experiences, where I can learn something good, and maybe even more. In general, I will be glad if someone keeps me a company to chat. PM me if you are also interested in books, readings, and ancient chronicles. I have assembled a library of interesting books and am eager to share it with you firstchurchlove.com

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

i live my life according to the Wiccan Rede
Do what you will, when your will harms none

 

[Jack Sand]

Panenthism

 

[WorldObliteration33]

It's a work around term for atheism. Atheism already says "I don't know".

 

[CiG]

I'd quibble slightly there; agnosticism says "I don't know" and atheism says "nobody knows."

 

[WorldObliteration33]

Not quite sure what you mean. I think both of them are suggesting that nobody knows. The difference is that atheism is saying I have no reason to believe based on lack of evidence, therefore I don't where as agnosticism is saying there's no evidence of a higher power's existence but there's also no evidence for its lack of existence.

The burden of proof lying on both the theist and atheist is suggesting that atheism is a position like their theist counterpart when it isn't. It's simply non-belief. That's more or less what makes it confusing and I think in all likelihood an agnostic leans closer one way or the other and just hasn't quite figured out which yet.

 

[Bloopy]

I'd quibble slightly there; agnosticism says "I don't know" and atheism says "nobody knows."

Actually atheism says "I don't believe". You can then have gnostic atheists, whose position is that we can (or will in the future) know/prove that no deities exist.

Conversely, there are agnostic theists and Christian agnostics, eg.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_theism

An agnostic theist believes in the existence of one or more gods, but regards the basis of this proposition as unknown or inherently unknowable.

 

[CiG]

Actually atheism says "I don't believe".

I'd consider one the logical extension of the other, but sure I agree.

 

[Bloopy]

There's quite a crowd who roll out all kinds of logical reasoning for disproving the existence of god though. I'd say that's at the gnostic end of things. Richard Dawkins said "I am agnostic to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at the bottom of the garden."

Whereas usually when people say they're agnostic, I think it means they're toying with the possibility that the universe has some sort of higher power (and don't think that's stupid). Maybe a god, or maybe an inanimate guiding force that's too quirky to be modelled by formulas, I dunno.

 

[PrincessHades]

To me at least, if someone says they're an atheist, I'd assume they're somewhat invested in their point of view and have a desire to back it up. On the other hand, if someone says they're agnostic, I just think they're uncertain, don't feel any faith, and are being honest about it.