Reznor, Elfman, Zimmer... Composore Roundtable

Thanks for posting. I wish John Williams was on this panel.

Fascinating around the 22 minute mark where they talk about how their "ears change" when the director is listening the first time. Absolutely fascinating that all of them agree on that point. I feel the same way sharing mixes with people.
 
Too bad all the movies they talk about have some of the most predicable scores you'll ever come across. Seriously, I'm not even sure why Hollywood bothers to pay these big guns to churn out the same crap that's in every movie for the last 15 years.
 
No problem guys!

It was right at that 22mins "ear change" thing where I thought I'd HAD to share this in here ;)
Really fascinating, and I've experienced this myself as well. Not so much with mixes, cause I rarely get too attached to a specific sound as much as I'd would to a song/part/riff/music that I wrote.
Up until I saw this conversation I didn't really realize how much it can affect your hearing if you play it to someone else in person. I rarely did that with new music for the band or stuff, but when I did it's exactly as those guys say. You can anticipate it, and suddenly theres some time of clarity. Totally weird haha

I think Elfman just seems to be fucked from working with Burton for too long ^^
 
Too bad all the movies they talk about have some of the most predicable scores you'll ever come across. Seriously, I'm not even sure why Hollywood bothers to pay these big guns to churn out the same crap that's in every movie for the last 15 years.

I am torn on this. I like Danny Elfman but can't stand how Zimmer and friends churn out their music seemingly from a conveyor belt. But it works. And often I like it. The intro music to Batman, Batman Returns, The Dark Knight, and Inception is all outstanding and memorable. That single violin note for the Joker was perfect and really impacted the movie in a positive and unique way.

Also, the Crimson Tide score is one of the best all time.
 
No problem guys!

It was right at that 22mins "ear change" thing where I thought I'd HAD to share this in here ;)
Really fascinating, and I've experienced this myself as well. Not so much with mixes, cause I rarely get too attached to a specific sound as much as I'd would to a song/part/riff/music that I wrote.
Up until I saw this conversation I didn't really realize how much it can affect your hearing if you play it to someone else in person. I rarely did that with new music for the band or stuff, but when I did it's exactly as those guys say. You can anticipate it, and suddenly theres some time of clarity. Totally weird haha

I think Elfman just seems to be fucked from working with Burton for too long ^^

Watching this makes me wonder what drives the "ear change". Is it purely a reaction from your own body that there is someone else in the room? Sounds silly but if it is something that happens to all of us then you might wonder if there could be more to it - could there actually be some sort of 6th sense shit going on?
 
Too bad all the movies they talk about have some of the most predicable scores you'll ever come across. Seriously, I'm not even sure why Hollywood bothers to pay these big guns to churn out the same crap that's in every movie for the last 15 years.

lol I think you are missing the point. They are not paid in gold to bring something new to the table, groundbreaking music or innovative shit. They are very well paid to pull emotions with their score in the background, so the music here it´s just to develop emotions and a way to deliver what you are seeing in the screen.

So, if you consider this, it might be much more hard to pull this kind of shit than to just write something different, groundbreaking e.t.c In conclusion they dont work for themselves but for a story and to reach emotions in a audience. That´s why in my point of view that they are so well paid, because they succeed.

As an example, almost everybody who liked inception can remember the score, because it drove the scenes and made an impact in our emotions.
 
I´ve been saying this all my life...
The day John Williams dies will be the day that movie soundtracks die too.