rough-mix real drums/engl amps.....

[gabriel g.]

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1425397/so far away test.mp3

Hey guys this is the first rough mix of the project I´m working on.
Drums are real.
I only triggered the kick and blended the snare with its own samples.

I pushed the mastering a little hart, just to hear how the mix works because someone else (Andrew Wade - BIG BOSS who recorded the A DAY TO REMEMBER - HOMESICK record)
will master it.

What would you change...

cheers

EDIT:

NEW MIX

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1425397/blam mastered.mp3

We used:

ENGL Thunder + ts + Marshall vintage v30 cab + Ibanez sz + dimebucker.

ENGL FIREBALL + tubescreamer + Marhsall vintage v30 Cab + Ibanez 7 + EMG 81.

 

[CatharsisStudios]

that band must fucking love a day to remember




not digging the tone to much, it works great for the pretty chords. try dropping mids in it, around like 400- or so some shit. or get the bass guitar in there to make up for it


the drums on the other hand

FUCK YES

 

[gabriel g.]

Yeah I know the ENGL amps arent that handy to mix
And I sqashed the master very hard!!!

I also noticed some annoying high frequency when I listened on bad in-your-ear headphones.

It is realy the first stage of the mixing process.
I´m very happy with the drums, but I´m little bit struggling with the guitars and bass.

the guitars have the power and smack of a real amp, but I´m missing the definition....
I´ll tweek the guitars!!!

Any tips besides the -400hz???

thanks

 

[DaWolf]

I agree that the drums are great.
I find the guitars a bit too dark. I would try to open them up a bit, high enough- but before the fizzy area begins. Maybe around 2500-3000.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

I like guitar tone with mids but this have too much indeed. Dont fit well with the drum sound. A multiband compressor could help with that.

 

[The Unavoidable]

The guitars sound great, but the mix in it's entirity (fuck spelling) sounds kinda weak. You need a ton of guitars in there, or a metric-fuckton of bass in there. More guitars, dammit!

 

[dcb]

never really liked engl tones on a recording, thats why i sold my invader.
i feel they are too compressed and nasal, but thats just my impression.

- still one of the better engl tones i've heard !

i think it could work for that band.

drums are cool !

any info on the drum recordings?

 

[dcb]

i just found out that this band is using the exact same rhythm like the band i recorded 2 months ago :

check their song "the voiceless" and wait for the verses
http://www.myspace.com/retainmusic

 

[gabriel g.]

Thanks guys!!!!

I tweeked the guitars with some filtering and the api eq.
After that the C4 with some updated sneap settings
(holy shit this is a cpu eater)

Drum-recordings:

The drummer has an pearl export and he put new coats on.
We put a very heavy blanket over the bassdrum to avoid to much bleeding in the other mics.

The recording place was like 50m^2 and with some accustic treatment....

I used

Bassdrum:
Adix d6 inside the kick
Sennheiser e602 infront of the kick with the cab inside the hole.

Snare:
Audix i5 on the top
Shure sm57 on the bottom

Toms:
all miced up with e604

I used 4 overhead mics:
4 bayerdynamic opus 53

Two in the middle over the snare (stereo I..I )
Very close together for a big stereo-image

Then one on the left side (pointing straight down like all)
on the ride/chine

On the right side on the hats and splash

All overhead mics were at the same height.

At least I use one room mic like 3m away from the kit
RODE NT2A

I used one slate kick and totaly replaced the kick (because of editing)
SSD kick 10 I think...

The snare is well played so I only blend a trigga for 30%.
I searched the SSD samples for a snare that sounds mostly the same...

Waves API 2500 on the snare bus, tom bus and on the full drumgroup.
Overheads are processed with api eq->L1-> api eq

 

[gabriel g.]

dcb die audix mics hab ich mir von Philipp Salm ausgeliehen, ich glaub ihr kennt euch

 

[gabriel g.]

ach und grüß mal den Jussi von mir

 

[gabriel g.]

NEW MIX!!!!!

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1425397/blam mastered.mp3

I used the c4 and try to bring in some crunch for the guitars.

let me know what you think

 

[xFkx]

One of the crashes has a tendency to drill a hole in my ear, dunno, there might be too much hi freq on the overheads

Other than that it sound cool

 

[gabriel g.]

can you be more detailed?
What frequency in what part???

cheers

 

[xFkx]

Maybe it's a china and not a crash. Anyway the first hit that I heard that was cousing pain to my ears was at 0:45

 

[gabriel g.]

Here is the INTRO track of the album....

I think you can judge the overall sound better on this one, because it has alot of different parts

cheers

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1425397/blam intro.mp3