Splash micing

[::XeS::]

Hi
What do you do if you have to mic some little splash above the toms (central drums position)?
Are they taken good with a good OH micing (2 oh mics) or they need an additional mic?

 

[LSD-Studio]

Hi
What do you do if you have to mic some little splash above the toms (central drums position)?
Are they taken good with a good OH micing (2 oh mics) or they need an additional mic?

I don't use an additional mic for that.

you should be fine with just the overheads, later in the mix, if it needs to be more up-front in a certain part (breaks etc), I sometimes automize it (just raise that hit).

 

[nwright]

In my experience, splash's tend to jump out on their own abit as well.

Man, for the most part I can't stand splash's though.

 

[greyskull]

In my experience, splash's tend to jump out on their own abit as well.

Man, for the most part I can't stand splash's though.

wow
thats exactly what i was about to say!

 

[Curran]

I hate my drummer caues he has splashes. they are soooooo not metal. but they do seem to come out in the mix okay with a standard OH configuration. if the drummer REALLY needs to hear it you can always go back and overdub the cymbal latter

Love Curran

 

[~BURNY~]

I hate splashes. They sound like shit. Why drummers do think they are cool is beyond me. Must be an ego thing.

 

[::XeS::]

Thank you guys!

 

[nwright]

Glad to hear I'm not alone! The attack is annoying and the decay is so quick, all you hear is that damn lame-ass attack! No splashes in metal!

 

[Matt Crooks]

I really like the bigger splashes 10" and 12"

I think Van from Nevermore does some really cool things with his splashes...

 

[LSD-Studio]

yep, splashes suck......

so do chinas....most of them just sound like a trashcan....

I wish drummers would only have rides and crashes....a china in the right place can be cool but overdubbed later anyways....


SCREW YOU DRUMTARDS!!!

 

[JeffTD]

Seriosuly, do you guys really not like splashes? They're some of the coolest, most tasteful little cymbals you can have, when used properly.

Listen to Gavin Harrison, Van Williams, the new Despised Icon, etc...

 

[Jaymz]

Gavin uses a rack of splashes I love splashes and chinas are my fav cymbals. More things to hit too

 

[deanbailey]

IMO Not having splashes (or bells etc) limits the level of creativity in the drummer...but then again Justin Foley has the bare minimum and is QUITE creative...but then again not every drummer has a bachelor degree in music.

In most cases they're mainly used for light accents...
...But in Chris Adler's case he actually rides on them in "The Faded Line" in the intro riff

I just contradicted everything i said.
sorry gone off topic...

 

[Noumenon]

I love splashes! Bells on the other hand, they never shut up!

 

[deanbailey]

yeah bells...especially since deathcore is now the "in" thing

 

[::XeS::]

with splash a drummer can do little tricks during his playing that enhance the overall cymbals sound (and the overall song sound).
It depends from the drummer style and from the music genre.
I like metal song with some cymbals tricks

 

[Noumenon]

"deathcore"?
I hate all these "-core" names. Or rather, I hate genres.

 

[LSD-Studio]

IMO Not having splashes (or bells etc) limits the level of creativity in the drummer......

for non-pro drummers it's exactly the other way 'round...
rather hit 3 or 4 cymbals on purpose at the right time then cymbals of any kind all the time "just because".

same goes for toms, I hate those usual metal-drummers with 5 toms 10000 cymbals and no clue....

I think no drummer should use more then 2-3 toms and 3 cymbals until he really knows how (and when!!) to use it, then upgrade to more toms/cymbals....

fuck learn to hit the snare like a man before you try playing fills over 5 toms!

remember, that does not go for experienced drummers, a kit should have everything the drummer needs (and ONLY what he needs), If you know how/when to use it., fine, most drummers I gotta work with don't and in that case I rather limit the amount of toms and cymbals, especially if they're of the "annoying" kind (splash, china).

Did I mention I Hate 95% of all drummers and love and adore the rest? I really do!

 

[deanbailey]

yes i agree 100% with the "learning to play what you got first".

I hate those usual metal-drummers with 5 toms 10000 cymbals and no clue...

what about those with an extra drumset?
http://www.drummersdigest.com/en/images/stories/Artists/Portnoy/dream theater_1.jpg

I'd love to see a video of dream theater's drums in studio.

 

[Jaymz]

I'd love to see a video of dream theater's drums in studio.

Dude hes got near 3 albums worth of studio footage on youtube. On the Great Debate he even utilizes both of his kits at the same time. Have a look at his new DVD its great, he even discusses the same question that many people have said over the years about, is it all really needed?