hey folks,
seems like most mix engineers tend to agree that the bottom end is usually the hardest to get right, be it due to plain physics, or the fact that it's hardest to hear, esp. in a bad room.
however, this kinda imposes the question: what exactly IS the "right" bottom end?
to me it seems like the bottom end is one of the aspects that defines the "sound" of a mix engineer the most.
e.g. tue madsen pretty much always seems to strive for a thick and fat bottom, whereas on the other hand andy's or to some degree also colin's mixes tend to be lighter on the bottom end.
this of course leads to a more controlled sound and a overall tighter bottom, but consequently lacks some of the fatness that bass heavier mixes tend to have.
so, whay do you guys usually like to hear?
tbh it's tempting to broaden the question...what do you think should the overall spectral balance of the finished mix look like? for example, hypocrisy's virus is way more scooped than let's say kreator enemy of god (which is also pretty light on the bottom side imho).
so, what's usually your preference?
i'm saying usually as there's obviously the style and sound of the band playing a large role in this question, but it's still an interesting one imho....
regarding the technical side of it, to me it seems as if that fat bottom sound usually derives from having a fat bass tone in the (sub)lows that's often also compressed to hell and back, whereas hipassing EVERYTHING to some degree seems to be one of the core aspects in getting the tighter more controlled sound. it also seems as if e.g. in andy's mixed the kick tends to sit below the bass, whereas in tue's mixes (or some bergstrand, some nordström, whatever) the bass is below the kick (in the subs, as i said).
seems like most mix engineers tend to agree that the bottom end is usually the hardest to get right, be it due to plain physics, or the fact that it's hardest to hear, esp. in a bad room.
however, this kinda imposes the question: what exactly IS the "right" bottom end?
to me it seems like the bottom end is one of the aspects that defines the "sound" of a mix engineer the most.
e.g. tue madsen pretty much always seems to strive for a thick and fat bottom, whereas on the other hand andy's or to some degree also colin's mixes tend to be lighter on the bottom end.
this of course leads to a more controlled sound and a overall tighter bottom, but consequently lacks some of the fatness that bass heavier mixes tend to have.
so, whay do you guys usually like to hear?
tbh it's tempting to broaden the question...what do you think should the overall spectral balance of the finished mix look like? for example, hypocrisy's virus is way more scooped than let's say kreator enemy of god (which is also pretty light on the bottom side imho).
so, what's usually your preference?
i'm saying usually as there's obviously the style and sound of the band playing a large role in this question, but it's still an interesting one imho....
regarding the technical side of it, to me it seems as if that fat bottom sound usually derives from having a fat bass tone in the (sub)lows that's often also compressed to hell and back, whereas hipassing EVERYTHING to some degree seems to be one of the core aspects in getting the tighter more controlled sound. it also seems as if e.g. in andy's mixed the kick tends to sit below the bass, whereas in tue's mixes (or some bergstrand, some nordström, whatever) the bass is below the kick (in the subs, as i said).