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Didn't know where to post this video (as it seemed inappropriate for the first two pages of this forum), but it's really sad. As I have a Rottweiler and this dog looks a lot like my own, I was very upset watching this.


It starts at 2:20.
 
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That cop should be fired. He had no composure in the situation. Cops are given taser guns and pepper spray for a reason. Guns are supposed to be a last resort. Furthermore, it looks like that was an illegal arrest. It's totally legal to record police in public. The department should have a meeting or training session to make sure the cops understand this and know how to habdle it. I'm sure it's antagonizing, but it's legal and cops need to handle it accordingly, cuz these days this kind of thing is gonna happen all the time.

Really sad. That dog was doing exactly what it was supposed to do and defend his person.
 
even if you personnally don't like dogs

the cops shooting a person's pet was still pretty fucked up
 
That is such a dumb reason to arrest someone. If the police have the "right" to stop and frisk innocent people out of the blue because they think he/she is "suspicious", why can't we have the right to film police officers when we think they aren't up to no good? Whatever happened to the checks and balance system? :lol:
 
In school, I was friend's with the leader of the Muslim Society Association club, and she had explained to me that arrange marriages aren't as awful as they seem. She showed me stats and all that about how people who are in arranged marriages actually are with their spouses longer than non-arranged ones. She basically said that when your parents put you into an arranged marriage they have your best interests at heart. I mean sure, that is probably true in the most IDEAL situation, but this situation is just plain fucked up.


 
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In school, I was friend's with the leader of the Muslim Society Association club, and she had explained to me that arrange marriages aren't as awful as they seem. She showed me stats and all that about how people who are in arranged marriages actually are with their spouses longer than non-arranged ones. She basically said that when your parents put you into an arranged marriage they have your best interests at heart. I mean sure, that is probably true in the most IDEAL situation, but this situation is just plain fucked up.

I just watched a documentary on marriages between Afghans and Iranians last night. Most of it focused on Afghan refuges who are in Iran illegally, but the end looked at couples that ended up getting sent back to Afghanistan. It was interesting because I hadn't seen too many interviews with couples from arranged marriages, at least from that region. One couple (in which the wife was sold in her early teens) was selling their 12 year daughter as a bride for $50. The wife made $1 a month cutting wool. Their sons' "job" was collecting cans at markets. I can't remeber what the husband did, but he didn't make much money either. They could barely afford food, so it's hard to say, but they really might have felt that selling their daughter to a man with more money was the best thing for her and the money they recieved could help their other kids.

It can be a tough situation. My gut says forcing a child into marriage is immoral and I also think it's un-Islamic, since marriage must be consentual in Islam. However, in some situations-at least when extreme poverty is involved-I can at least understand why it happens.

Some of the other aranged marriages were interesting, to say the least. In one case, an Afghan man had been set into an arranged marriage with one Afghan woman by his father. Later he fell in love with an Iranian woman. Needless to say, it was an awkward household. The Afghan woman was basically condemned to a life as a third wheel and the Iranian woman seemed cool with reminding everyone of tht fact.

There was another marriage between a 22 year old man and a 14 year old girl who had never met each other before. They had no idea why they were being married. All the guy could say was "my dad said I should marry her."
 
The reason why it's shit, well the reason I care about, is that due to fucking globalisation, none of that shit is just something that happens "there".
 
I just watched a documentary on marriages between Afghans and Iranians last night. Most of it focused on Afghan refuges who are in Iran illegally, but the end looked at couples that ended up getting sent back to Afghanistan. It was interesting because I hadn't seen too many interviews with couples from arranged marriages, at least from that region. One couple (in which the wife was sold in her early teens) was selling their 12 year daughter as a bride for $50. The wife made $1 a month cutting wool. Their sons' "job" was collecting cans at markets. I can't remeber what the husband did, but he didn't make much money either. They could barely afford food, so it's hard to say, but they really might have felt that selling their daughter to a man with more money was the best thing for her and the money they recieved could help their other kids.

It can be a tough situation. My gut says forcing a child into marriage is immoral and I also think it's un-Islamic, since marriage must be consentual in Islam. However, in some situations-at least when extreme poverty is involved-I can at least understand why it happens.

Some of the other aranged marriages were interesting, to say the least. In one case, an Afghan man had been set into an arranged marriage with one Afghan woman by his father. Later he fell in love with an Iranian woman. Needless to say, it was an awkward household. The Afghan woman was basically condemned to a life as a third wheel and the Iranian woman seemed cool with reminding everyone of tht fact.

There was another marriage between a 22 year old man and a 14 year old girl who had never met each other before. They had no idea why they were being married. All the guy could say was "my dad said I should marry her."

That's actually a really interesting perspective and interesting sounding documentary... is it on Netflix? You know the thing about arrange marriages is that I'm not totally against them per se. It seems here in America, we treat free will pretty bad. The more options we have the more we seem dissatisfied with our circumstances. In cultures where there are arranged marriages, they are forced to work their disagreements out, which is admirable. However, I do have the inclination as well that selling kids off is immoral. Yes, these families are poor and possibly uneducated which dampens their awareness level, but at the same time just because something can be justified doesn't make it the right thing to do.

I actually didn't know marriage had to be consensual in Islam. Seems pretty obvious, but American ideology has gotten to me so I assumed otherwise. It's a sad life to live being a third wheel. Read one of those Khaled Housseni books, and something similar happened to a character in the book. She was married off by arrangement at an early age then her husband married another woman, and she was left as a third wheel. It is pretty awful being a woman with extremely strict "Islamic" laws. They literally have no protection even as children. There shouldn't be a way for a grown man to be able to marry an 11 year old girl, & with the girl not even having the option of divorcing said man.
 
That's actually a really interesting perspective and interesting sounding documentary... is it on Netflix?

You can watch it on LinkTV. It's called Where do I Belong. Really great cinematography and also some really beautiful quotes from some of the refuges.

http://www.linktv.org/bridgetoiran/where-do-i-belong

In general their documentary selection on LinkTV is phenomenal, specifically if want to get inside perspectives from the 3rd world.

You know the thing about arrange marriages is that I'm not totally against them per se. It seems here in America, we treat free will pretty bad. The more options we have the more we seem dissatisfied with our circumstances. In cultures where there are arranged marriages, they are forced to work their disagreements out, which is admirable.

Yeah I think at times we can overvalue the benefit of our freedom of choice, at least insofar as actually having a "happier life" is concerned. A lot of people have no idea what they want or what's good for them, so I could certainly see an argument for arranged marriages, if the matchmaker is really considering compatibility. Which some do. But in other cases it seems purely financial.

However, I do have the inclination as well that selling kids off is immoral. Yes, these families are poor and possibly uneducated which dampens their awareness level, but at the same time just because something can be justified doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Yeah I agree. I really do think you're bound seriously damage and traumatize a girl whose 10-14 if you force her into marriage and a sexual relationship with a man much older than her. And what sort of culture emerges when a high percentage of the women have experienced such trauma?

At the same time, I always try and put myself in the perspective of someone making a decision that initially seems morally abhorrent. If I was in a situation where I could barely afford to feed my kids and someone who could offered to buy my daughter, what would I do? It's easy to say I would say no, coming from the perspective I'm coming from today, but if I was actually in that situation, who knows what my answer would be.

I actually didn't know marriage had to be consensual in Islam. Seems pretty obvious, but American ideology has gotten to me so I assumed otherwise.

Yeah there's a lot of misinformation on Islam, in part of Western stereotypes and in part because of Muslims who do not live by the words of their own book.

It's a sad life to live being a third wheel. Read one of those Khaled Housseni books, and something similar happened to a character in the book. She was married off by arrangement at an early age then her husband married another woman, and she was left as a third wheel. It is pretty awful being a woman with extremely strict "Islamic" laws. They literally have no protection even as children. There shouldn't be a way for a grown man to be able to marry an 11 year old girl, & with the girl not even having the option of divorcing said man.

That's another thing. Islamic couples can divorce at any time, at either the man or women's discretion, so long as a real effort has been put into resolving the problem. It's all plainly stated in the Quran, so I have no idea where these fundamentalists come up with these laws or how they justify them on Islamic grounds.
 
Wil definitely have to watch that documentary soon. Thanks for the link.

I agree with you. It is easy to say you'd do different with the cultural background we possess. It doesn't make the decision (to marry off young daughter to an older man) right, but with that logic it doesn't make it wrong in every case either.

If that's all true, Islam clearly isn't the problem.