The LotFP 2006 concert schedule, this time WITH LINKS

Jim LotFP

Jim LotFP

The Keeper of Metal
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All at Club 25 (http://www.welmu.com/) except Teräsbetoni which is at Amarillo, a... *sigh*... Tex-Mex restaurant here in Vaasa.

October 21 5€
Shade Empire http://www.shadeempire.com/
Aberrant Vascular http://www.aberrantvascular.com/

Aberrant Vascular is fronted by some opera guy that my brother-in-law knows. I checked out a sample, reminds me a bit of LMI-era Arcturus. Should be interesting.

October 27 5€
Miseria http://www.miseria.org/
Funeral Planet http://www.funeralplanet.net/
Fall Of The Idols http://www.falloftheidols.com/

Fall of the Idols is excellent doom and I'll be interviewing them at the venue. Funeral Planet are supposed to be sending me their latest. Miseria I know nothing about but there are three girls in the band, and that's all I know about them.

November 3 ?€
Teräsbetoni http://www.terasbetoni.com/

It's Spinal Tap time for so many reasons.

November 25 ?€
Rotten Sound http://www.rottensound.com/

GGGGRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNDDDDDDD. Or is it DDDEEAATTHHH? I haven't heard these guys in years.

December 2 6€
Insomnium http://www.insomnium.net/
The Scourger http://www.thescourger.net/

Insomnium's latest is a letdown on initial listens. They seem to be playing it safe where the older albums at least had a... "swing" isn't the right word but I'm not playing Mr. Descripto at the moment. The Scourger is that hypercharged "GO!" ATG metal, judging by their first single.

December 16 ?€
Reverend Bizarre http://www.reverend.shows.it/
Spiritus Mortis http://www.spiritusmortis.com/
Minotauri http://minotauri.not4free.com/

This one is in Turku. We're going, assuming we catch when tickets go on sale and this doesn't sell out like their final show on the 30th.
 
except Teräsbetoni which is at Amarillo, a... *sigh*... Tex-Mex restaurant here in Vaasa.
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Ha! That has to be one hell of a wild place. I can only imagine. I look forward to photos. :)

Aberrant Vascular is fronted by some opera guy that my brother-in-law knows. I checked out a sample, reminds me a bit of LMI-era Arcturus. Should be interesting.
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They seem confident and cocksure:

At the present knowledge we'll play at club 25, Vaasa, on saturday 21.10. The evening should also contain some other bands, but that's unconfirmated information at the moment and they're probably not so good as we are anyway.

myGRAIN
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Yikes! That is about what I expected with that name and spelling.
 
evlgt85 said:
I, too, would like to know more about this Tex-Mex place in Finland. I can't even imagine...
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One of the only places in town where you can get a beef hamburger. Everywhere else, even those selling "American style" food, deals in pork burgers.

10€ for burger and fries. But there is no tipping here.

6€ for mozzarella cheese sticks. THREE of them, to be precise.

A variety of pseudo Mexican dishes that I wouldn't dare to touch.

The menu is in English though, so that's a plus.

But mostly, it's just a bar. In a shopping mall.
 
Why do you go to shows?

After finally reading scum (oddly I read the others first, for some reason I never got around to scum), I'm curious on your reasons. You seem to indicate that the live setting of heavy metal is not really heavy metal. Thus, I am assuming that it is mostly for other heavy metal reasons. Being a fan of a group, as you indicate, means supporting the group. The live setting is where most bands make their money. By attending concerts you are supporting bands, so that they can continue to make heavy metal albums.

Though, I also believe its a combination of being around other people who enjoy what you enjoy, the energy of live music (sometimes it just sounds better, and to know 'hey can these guys actually play this music or is it just recording tricks), and supporting bands.

Your feedback is requested. ;)



p.s. I will probably be asking you more questions about scum, even if I'm outdated. Partly because I am a 'heavy metal writer' and have curiousities.
 
Very fair questions... either in this thread or the Soulfallen/Ablaze My Hatred thread, I had started going on about this very thing, a good screenful of words, but I couldn't make the points coherent so I just said hell with it.

But I am aware of how my behavior contradicts what I wrote in Scum. And please feel free to ask. If anything, it hurries up my process of organizing my thoughts, and I will come back to this specific question later tonight.
 
Cheiron said:
p.s. I will probably be asking you more questions about scum, even if I'm outdated. Partly because I am a 'heavy metal writer' and have curiousities.
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You may have mentioned this elsewhere, but do you write for any publications? If so, which ones?
 
Cheiron said:
I look forward to your thoughts whenever you decide to type them.
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Ah, space case me. Between trying to finish up the reviews for the new issue (the pattern: "How will I ever complete the page count without writing mindless filler?" ... "Oh shit, I just wrote two pages on that one album. Will I have space to say anything about these other albums now?") and TPI arriving (5 DVD wrestling show... haha)...

Concerts here seem different than what I was used to in Atlanta.

* Aside from my trip to see Novembre and Katatonia in April, every show I've gone to see has been a one-off, or at worst one date in a 3-date swing. The musicians don't seem worn down and I don't get the impression that I'm watching robots perform the same set the same way for the 15th time this month.

* I have no sense of local "scene politics" yet. In Atlanta, I was privy to a bit of the behind-the-scenes process for deciding which band got to open for national tours (before the days that they'd package 4 bands squeezing out the locals altogether), as well as how lineups were decided for local shows. SUCKED to have one of those "need to look at the crowd to know how good a band is" kind of guys in control of so much.

* No pay-to-play here as far as I'm aware of, no "you have to buy 20 tickets and sell them yourself" garbage. Last week I saw somebody from the club giving money to the unsigned band that played to about 50 people. Amazing thing to see.

* The fact that the club employees don't get paid and the club itself seems to be part of some greater organization that owns the building they don't have to give a shit about booking things that will draw a lot of people. This also means they take no risks and don't get tours with minimum guarantees (and opening bands that bought on the tours). And they don't promote a goddamn thing, but "promoters" often don't anyway, and then they blame the bands for not drawing anybody. Bands playing here want to play here. There's more to this story but the club employees I've talked to don't seem to know anything about how the place is run or stays open so I'm just assuming some of these details... but I'll keep asking different people. :p And the stuff I do know for sure I found out from asking how to get Nightingale booked here, hehe...

* The variety of bands playing locally KILLS THE SHIT out of anything I found in the States. That probably helps.

And again I'm running into the problem of not articulating my thoughts very well. Nutshell version: The concert environment seems so much more relaxed here.
 
Still seems somewhat at odds with your statements about how metal is about individuality, and how the live setting is about getting people together to all have a lovely experience together, and thus the contradiction. I should probably copy paste the statements I'm referring to. Will do that later if I get time.

But your response does clear up some of your other previous thoughts on why live metal just wasn't metal.
 
Cheiron said:
Still seems somewhat at odds with your statements about how metal is about individuality, and how the live setting is about getting people together to all have a lovely experience together, and thus the contradiction. I should probably copy paste the statements I'm referring to. Will do that later if I get time.
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I know what you're referring to. I can't explain it other than to say it's just a fun (and cheap) night out of the house. If I had more money I'd be going out and seeing a lot more bands playing more kinds of music than I do, not really having much to do with heavy metal itself. Tonight's show is going to be two bands I know I don't like. Still going. *shrug*

Although the less people that turn up to a show, the more I tend to like it. heh. More relaxed atmosphere.

Another benefit of the current situation: Seeing bands for 4 or 5€ and having a cheap way of figuring out whether their recorded work is worth investing in. :) Back in the States I was used to it being cheaper to get the CD than seeing a band live, even if was just a local band.

Doesn't explain why we're going to spend 4 hours each way on a train to see Reverend Bizarre in Turku in December, or why I spent 18 hours each way going to see Opeth, Amorphis, and Novembers Doom back in 2001 (and I had reasons completely unrelated to music for traveling 8-10 hours each way in a car to see Opeth, Paradise Lost, and Brave in DC in 2003), but there ya go.
 
Cheiron said:
Sea of Tranquility.
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That's cool. I read it sometimes.


The primary thing I dislike about metal shows is the, for lack of a better term, violence. I like to just stand there and watch, but it seems like a pit always erupts where I am no matter where I stand. And with being a short (5'7"), average guy (165 lbs.), I get shoved around quite a bit. :bah:
 
Jim LotFP said:
Doesn't explain why we're going to spend 4 hours each way on a train to see Reverend Bizarre in Turku in December
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Shit...no explanation needed. That will be one hell of a show, and one you will not regret attending. I'm glad I got to catch them once, but not ever hearing "The Wandering Jew" live is curse as almost as unwelcome as the one placed on the lyrical subject of the song. :)
 
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