The low quality level of more or less popular metal music today

[Hell Mike]

SERIOUS MUSIC THREAD

In the 80s, even though Poison (us), Mötley Crüe and Ratt were whöa, Metallica, Maiden, Dio et all ruled this world, now we have mallcore crap but at least the wigger rapcore (refuse to call it metal) seems to have drifted from the mainstream? Anyways, all hail the 80s and buy you heavy fukkin metal to turn the tide at least a bit so we get more good shows even though we neither can nor want to hit the mainstream with our anti-cosmic metal of death! That's all, I just wanted to take JayK's offer to make a serious thread so I hope someone says something good here soon. I haven't really used my brain more than ½ a second while typing this but oh well

 

[Demilich]

with our anti-cosmic metal of death!

haha, fuckin dissection


uh.. as for something useful... i want to form a doom metal band but i have no friends.

 

[NAD]

Run on sentence = metal and very serious.

Yeah I don't really like much mallcöre, but it's better than that awful nu-metal trend (which I actually quite enjoyed at the beginning).

The lines between mainstream and underground are pretty blurred nowadays though, thanks to mp3s and such. Finding great music is not difficult. So in one way, it's just further proof that 99% of people are idiots, because they'd rather listen to Linkin Park.

I'm okay with that. I'm also okay with being an idiot.

 

[JayKeeley]

I honestly don't know what's going on in this thread. Are we doing 80's vs 90's?

So were the 80's better than the 90's? Yeah, come on kids stop being so defensive, the 80's ruled for metal just as the 50's ruled for jazz. The 90's just got more "selective" and "refined", that's all.

Who knows what's going on these days. Here's some food for thought:

Traditional (any genre metal) = look back and in
Innovative (pushing the envelope) = look forwards and out

Who gets that?

 

[Hell Mike]

I get that and good call, Jay, metal is faaaar from bad these days and I kind ofchanged my mind now, let the fag mainstream hippies have their crap and leave the good stuff for us in the underground. And generally it was past (80s mostly) vs present (everything since then).

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

the 80s ruled for metal, but it has greatly matured and expanded since then. It's hard to compare the two. Don't forget hair and glam metal

As for demilich, i'd totally be in a doom metal band with you, but it's a bit far away

 

[Ellestin]

i want to form a doom metal band but i have no friends.

I can spot no contradiction, so why are both statements linked by but?

 

[Demilich]

I think metal has firmly established itself as an entity apart from the mainstream, even though the "business" aspect of the larger labels pretty much mimics the ethic and ... stuff... of the major labels. I guess every style of music has it's bottom-clinging, devoid-of-talent masses, while the true innovators (as per Keeley's apt description) are generally on the fringes.

 

[Demilich]

I can spot no contradiction, so why are both statements linked by but?

I guess it'd be easier to find members to play with if I actually knew people and such, you know? I'm tempted to ask Highway Corsair about working on something together, since he has a bit of recording experience and I like the stuff he demoed for us a while ago.

 

[Hell Mike]

I'll form a doom band with Erik when he moves back to Umeå and it will rule

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Simply the sound of metal in the 80s was the "new loud thing to give to teenagers" from the companies, the "new loud thing" now is mallcore and nu. Companies' behavior was the same, we just happen to like one thing more than the other.
About comparisons 80s had "the best metal", but 90s had the "more good metal".

 

[Hell Mike]

But the 90s had quite a few of my mega top ever albums as well
80s was drinkin and hellthrashin, 90s was cyfaws, what will the 00s end up as?

 

[NAD]

Yeah metal or not, the 80's were by far the worst decade for music as a whole. Lots of great stuff, but TONS of absolutely horrid junk from all kinds of genres.

As far as the 90's go, I'm like Chromatose: every day is 1995.

NP: Pearl Jam

 

[Hell Mike]

The 80s were FAR FAR FAAAR from horrible for metal music, just sayin'. The earliest groundwork was built upon to form a very solid and many times beautiful or at least attractive in some way to me base for the beast we know as HEAVY FUCKIN METAL.

 

[NAD]

Oh yeah, lots of great underground metal like Bathory, Celtic Frost, etc. but then you had Motley Crue and Def Leppard and...

Well I know a big chunk of this board likes those two awful awful groups so I'll just shut up.

Or will I?

MYSTERY POST!

 

[IOfTheStorm]

the 80's were by far the worst decade for music as a whole. Lots of great stuff, but TONS of absolutely horrid junk from all kinds of genres.

You are wrong and you know it. Don't make me list bands/albums.

 

[Demilich]

You are wrong and you know it. Don't make me list bands/albums.

He already acknowledged that there were lots of great stuff. How is listing bands going to change anything?

 

[Hell Mike]

We also had quite a few really big really good bands y'know, natey

 

[unhinged]

But the 90s had quite a few of my mega top ever albums as well
80s was drinkin and hellthrashin, 90s was cyfaws, what will the 00s end up as?

I think what you were trying to convey in the thread
is that in the 80's metal was metal with metallica, slayer, maiden etc and these days what is perceived as metal isn't. ie linkin park and such shite

the thing is in the 80's, certainly early-mid, the likes of europe, bon jovi and poison were just as much percieved by the average person as metal. so we had the same shit back then.

this applies to more than metal by the way

with the advances in media what has become more exiting in the late 90's + 00's is the general ease of availability of good music if you look for it and the connectivity of a wider more worldwide underground....like I can connect with you now from the other side of the world and say go and check out 'so + so'

(for the record I was big on tape trading)

just this week I've learned about and heard 2 great bands I wouldn't have ever heard about

of course this ease has its downside with any twat with a modem and a guitar being able to swamp the scene with shit

and there are 1000's more sterile imitations of the latest fad to wade through

there are plus and minus but in reality youve got it better now

 

[cthulufhtagn]

Oh yeah, lots of great underground metal like Bathory, Celtic Frost, etc. but then you had Motley Crue and Def Leppard and...

Well I know a big chunk of this board likes those two awful awful groups so I'll just shut up.

Or will I?

MYSTERY POST!

i sure as hell won't

def leppard suck ass

motley crue are festering sewage