The metal scene ,is it good? are we going to heaven?

The saYer

The saYer

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Hey, when I see a dvd for a metal band, and they play in europe or south america etc. I see big ass crowds, and I say to myself, so is it that good, and it is only bad where I live?, but how can that be if this is the thrash capital of the world?(san francisco) here we get 300 people in a small room to see kreator!
about 500 people in a slightly bigger room to see priest! So how good is it? :confused: I mean,I consider myself luckt\y to see them so close when I see that in other countries you have to watch the band play from far far away, or is it just that they taped their only big crowd?
 
I think in those countries the people come from all over the place to see them while here in the States, we pretty much get a full tour so the bands are playing pretty close and a lot more stops. You usually don't see South American stops in Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador, and Peru all on one tour so they flock to these events.

I, like you, would much rather see them with a small crowd. You have a better chance of meeting them.
 
There's the catch, eh? Much as I'd love for my favourite music to get big and popular so I could pull chicks no probs and be popular myself :saint: I wouldn't half miss the intimacy of the gigs you get down here. People remember the shows they've been to here for a long time. We're still talking about gigs that happened two years ago every once in a while...
 
Me I like a good Small Crowd .... you can really connect with the band and the bond thats there when there is only 2 or 3 hundred people the feeling that the band is playing for you and really nobody else its great, Nobody has a bad seat or spot and theres not 30,000 fucking Morons to sift through
 
The only big crowds I've seen were at german and italian festivals (Wacken, Gods of Metal, etc.), as it's more or less the same for our local gigs here.
Example : there were (only) 400 people for Saxon last year... then compare to their Wacken DVD ;)

By the way I like both small gigs and huge festivals, you don't go there for the same reasons.
 
Psychonaut said:
I think in those countries the people come from all over the place to see them while here in the States, we pretty much get a full tour so the bands are playing pretty close and a lot more stops. You usually don't see South American stops in Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador, and Peru all on one tour so they flock to these events.

I, like you, would much rather see them with a small crowd. You have a better chance of meeting them.
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Wrong. Actually bands do tour extensively South America, at least one or two cities in big countries. Brazil, Argentina, Chile are major markets these days. Even smaller countries like Ecuador, Venezuela and even some from Central America like Panama, Costa Rica and Nicaragua are getting in the sight of bands like Helloween, Gamma Ray, Masterplan, Kreator, Nightwish, Mago De
Oz, Deep Purple, etc.
Saxon, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, had tour extensively South America in the past and they're going to do it again.

Except Brazil which is almost as big as USA, most countries in South America has a size reasonable enough in which one or two presentations allow people to attend without problems even from far regions. On the other hand those are poorer countries in which touring outside the capitol or major cities is not worthy for the band.

Same as USA, small cities never seen SHIT. And here either you have to fly or drive. I don't have a car, and paying > $200 to see a band (besides the ticket) is out of my league. A lot of small countries in the South (alike Europe) have trains so you can get cheap to a place in a reasonable time slot.

Since I cam to USA I have lost more gigs in three years back home that I'll never going to make up for them :erk:
 
My point was that they don't tour places like South America as extensively as they do the US. Being in a small town could be bad if you're not near a major city but if you happen to be near one that has absolutely NO metal scene, you're pretty much done for. I've been fortunate thus far to have lived in or near cities that the majority of the bands play. I would normally not make a major road trip to see a show, though, should the tour be a small one.

For a long time all I did was go to arena shows but after seeing the bands in smaller venues, I dread going back to the hassles of arenas. There's just too many people.
 
I have to agree with Flo (fangface) as each crowd size has it's advantages and disadvantages. If I had to pick one I would say I like the medium sized shows the best like around 1000-1500 people. It's still "intimate" but the stage is large enough for the bands to have plenty of room on stage, a stage show and the nice lighting rigs.


Bryant
 
i'm a big fan of smallish shows.if you can see a great band in a 500-1000 capacity venue,its the best for me.big,big venues,10,000+,i always think the sound sucks a bit more than the smaller ones.i can understand why bands like to play big venues,from both a crowd and money point of view,but the sound really is affected in the more arena type places.
 
I think most of the concerts I´ve seen so far took place in smaller venues for crowds up to about 500 people. (But maybe that´s because I tend to listen to a lot of stuff which is not exactly "music for the masses", haha!) I think the smallest venue I´ve been to was at a concert of The Third And The Mortal in 1997. It was maybe about 50 square metres, the band was standing in one corner, on a level with the audience, because there was no stage and there were just about 25-30 people. Very intimate. But I´ve also seen a few concerts which took place in big venues for several thousand people. Actually, my very first concert in January 1987 (Metallica with opening act Metal Church) and my third in spring 1988 (Megadeth with supporting acts Sanctuary, Flotsam & Jetsam and Testament) as well as two others in recent years - Dream Theater in January 2002 and Nightwish in January 2003 - took place in such venues. In the last two cases I had a good view onto the entire stage - too bad it was so far away that I could have used opera glasses! So I definitely prefer the smaller venues for up to 500 people.

I guess I have to consider myself quite lucky to live in a region where most artists who tour in Germany play at least one concert. And all the venues - be it the big ones in Dortmund, Oberhausen and Cologne or the smaller ones in Essen and Bochum - are just a 30-60 minutes´ drive away.
 
:lol: Good luck, I'll sit this one out. :) Religous people scare me, they can turn on ya in a heart beat. "What, how can you not believe in God?"
 
JonnyD said:
"are we going to heaven? " theres no such thing as Heaven or Hell :D
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BLASPHEMER!

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