The Wall Live

ElectricWiz

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I've been meaning to ask if anyone is attending this tour. I know there are some Floyd fans here. I'm very excited about this, and even though Gilmour won't be there, this looks to be one of the events of the decade. The footage from the shows (search Youtube if you are iterested) looks amazing.

I'm a massive Pink Floyd fan, of all eras. I've got a great seat for the Dec. 8th San Jose show. Can't wait.
 
One of my co-workers attended Wednesday's concert at Madison Sq Garden in NY. He claims to have been left "speechless". Apparently, Waters' show is airtight and flawless.

Enjoy it, Wyz.


I do indeed love Floyd, but, frankly, always considered the Wall to be a mightily overrated album. Still, it contains two of the greatest songs ever composed by man in "Numb" and "Hey You".
 
One of my co-workers attended Wednesday's concert at Madison Sq Garden in NY. He claims to have been left "speechless". Apparently, Waters' show is airtight and flawless.

Enjoy it, Wyz.


I do indeed love Floyd, but, frankly, always considered the Wall to be a mightily overrated album. Still, it contains two of the greatest songs ever composed by man in "Numb" and "Hey You".

I think of the Wall as being a kind of standout from the rest of the catalog, in that it is more a Roger Waters album than a Pink Floyd album. My personal favorite era is UmmaGumma through Animals, with Animals being my favorite of them all. The Wall though, is a singular achievement, and I do think every inch of it is brilliant. Really spun that sucker a lot in my teens - The recent release, "Is There Anybody Out There," which is a live version of the Wall from 1980 in its totality, is brilliant too.

The footage I've seen of this tour is STUNNING, and I can fully believe your pal's, "speechless," quote! Can't wait.
 
Incidentally, Soundmaster...I've been wondering what you think of the new Enslaved? I think I can guess that you like it, but here's my take:

In a nutshell, it's awesome. I considered Vertebrae near impossible to top, but with Enslaved's constant upward climb, I'm not surprised that this IS a step forward. I think it is probably their most cohesive album, and has a continuity that works like crazy. Every time it finishes playing, I just start again on track 1. It's pretty much all I'm listening to right now, with a few exceptions and breaks, of course.
It's deep on emotion, and kind of embraces everything they've done since Below the Lights. One of the single greatest bands working today IMO, in any genre, metal or otherwise. All the releases are great (thanks for those you sent, incidentally), but Below the Lights through the new one account for a legendary run of titles.
 
I think of the Wall as being a kind of standout from the rest of the catalog, in that it is more a Roger Waters album than a Pink Floyd album. My personal favorite era is UmmaGumma through Animals, with Animals being my favorite of them all. The Wall though, is a singular achievement, and I do think every inch of it is brilliant. Really spun that sucker a lot in my teens - The recent release, "Is There Anybody Out There," which is a live version of the Wall from 1980 in its totality, is brilliant too.

The footage I've seen of this tour is STUNNING, and I can fully believe your pal's, "speechless," quote! Can't wait.

I've always been a "Gilmour" guy, and less so "Waters". I love everything from "Meddle" through "Animals" and, of course, a lot of the "Wall". Aside from "Animals" (which I suppose was still more of a 'band effort', the Waters-dominated stuff just isn't up to par, IMO. "The Final Cut" is a snooze-fest.) Conversely, I love the Division Bell, which I rank among the band's greatest records.
 
Incidentally, Soundmaster...I've been wondering what you think of the new Enslaved? I think I can guess that you like it, but here's my take:

In a nutshell, it's awesome. I considered Vertebrae near impossible to top, but with Enslaved's constant upward climb, I'm not surprised that this IS a step forward. I think it is probably their most cohesive album, and has a continuity that works like crazy. Every time it finishes playing, I just start again on track 1. It's pretty much all I'm listening to right now, with a few exceptions and breaks, of course.
It's deep on emotion, and kind of embraces everything they've done since Below the Lights. One of the single greatest bands working today IMO, in any genre, metal or otherwise. All the releases are great (thanks for those you sent, incidentally), but Below the Lights through the new one account for a legendary run of titles.


It never ceases to amaze me how similar our musical tastes are. I, too, consider this to be Enslaved's Magnum Opus. And, I, too, have been playing this NON STOP since day 1 of its release (which is NOT something I normally do)! It's a fantastic release that should appeal to fans of Accept, Emperor, Iron Maiden, and Metallica.....as well as anything & everything in between. This band defines metal and everything that makes it such a great, innovative, and exciting musical genre. Enslaved should be mega-stars! Alas, they're very likely barely scraping a living out of this. Such is the plight of the artist in the 21st century, I suppose.

Anyway, YES: Enslaved, alongside Maiden, are, IMO, the BEST BAND operating in 2010. They played Opeth's game & beat them at it.

Albums of the year:
1) ENSLAVED
2) Anathema
3) Maiden
4) Triptychon
5) Cathedral
 
Was in Berlin in 1990 when Roger brought the show to town.

Was one of the greatest live shows I've seen.

Only bad point was some of the guest vocalists let it down.

Cindy Lauper for f**ks sake what was he thinking.

Floyd as a band are awesome and always will be. Remember Neil Armstrong's moon landing and the Floyd playing in the background as it went out live to the world.

David Gilmour is up there with my favourite guitarists, the virtuoso style he plays is there with Vai, Saatchi et al.
 
I think of the Wall as being a kind of standout from the rest of the catalog, in that it is more a Roger Waters album than a Pink Floyd album.

I fail to understand the reasoning behind this comment by you and others as well. Yes, Waters wrote the majority of the album, but Gilmoure, Wright and Mason still contributed their style to the overall FEEL of The Wall.

Waters pretty much wrote Animals, but I rarely hear fans talk about it like it was a Waters solo album.

Eh - guess to each their own.
 
I fail to understand the reasoning behind this comment by you and others as well. Yes, Waters wrote the majority of the album, but Gilmoure, Wright and Mason still contributed their style to the overall FEEL of The Wall.

Waters pretty much wrote Animals, but I rarely hear fans talk about it like it was a Waters solo album.

Eh - guess to each their own.

It's well known that there were major rifts in the band when The Wall was being recorded, and the other guys weren't all that interested in the concept, lyrics, or pretty much any of it. I think Gilmore wrote Run Like Hell and one or two other things. It was Roger's vision, and I also think it sounds very different stylistically than everything that came before it. If you listen to The Final Cut and Roger's solo records, it sounds a lot more like those than post-Waters Pink Floyd does. I think it's fair to say it was, "the Roger Waters show." The other guys were very sparsely involved in The Final Cut is my point. Animals may have been Waters' baby too, but the others were much more intimately involved in the creation of it. It's the difference between a band developing stuff together, and one member saying, "I wrote all this, you play this here...."
 
It was Roger's vision, and I also think it sounds very different stylistically than everything that came before it. If you listen to The Final Cut and Roger's solo records, it sounds a lot more like those than post-Waters Pink Floyd does.

Most definitively. There's something in the Waters' way of dragging the band around that made "Animals" a great album while "The Wall" is a radio-oriented more pop than prog (TFC is umbereably boring).

I think the live presentation in Berlin was an aprocryphal heresy and I don't care about PF without Gilmour, Mason and Wright, and since Rick passed away...
 
It was Roger's vision, and I also think it sounds very different stylistically than everything that came before it. If you listen to The Final Cut and Roger's solo records, it sounds a lot more like those than post-Waters Pink Floyd does.

Oh yes, The Final Cut was 100 percent Waters and sounds nothing like Floyd, but to my ears The Wall still has the atmosphere and feel of an ever-expanding Floyd - the little nuances. I know it was his baby, but I find it hard to believe The Wall was 100 percent his doing - every note, every twist of the knob, etc.

And yes, I know Richard was a paid musician for the tour, so I would assume his attitude was like "whatever you say."
 
I don't care about PF without Gilmour, Mason and Wright, and since Rick passed away...

I saw Floyd during their Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell tours and loved every moment, even though Roger was not there. If the Earth stood still for a day and whole Floyd did reunite for a tour, I would have paid whatever they wanted - but since Rick passed away...
 
Actually, on a side note, I took Roger Waters room service once. There is absolutely nothing remarkable that happened in the interaction, but it was cool nonetheless. He was staying at fancy Inn I used to work at in Tucson, AZ. He was in town with his wife at the time (I assume it was his wife), and they were checking into a famous rehab clinic the next day. This clinic helps with everything from drugs, to food issues, to just kind of detoxing from the general crap of life though, so I have no idea why he was going. Was a thrill to meet him, of course.