Toontrack - Rock! EZX

[schust]

Got this in my inbox this morning. Looks good. Thoughts?

http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=209

 

[Machinated]

not really into the repackaged things. the midi should be cool anyway.

I'd love a british rock EZX/SDX covering some of the ground abbey road 60's drummer does, through to the stephen street/cenzo townsend sound of rock drums. C&V is the closes thing and it isnt really the same thing. Jeremy Stacey would be an awesome choice for a drummer, has a ridiculous amount of kits, knows his studio stuff inside out and plays like a beast.

 

[superfreak]

Instead of re-packaged and re-mixed stuff, how about a good Progressive Rock EZX/SDX inspired by the drum tones of Tool, Porcupine Tree etc.? Maybe even involve Steven Wilson, Gavin Harrison, Joe Barresi, Danny Carey et all in the process.

 

[FIXXXER]

Instead of re-packaged and re-mixed stuff, how about a good Progressive Rock EZX/SDX inspired by the drum tones of Tool, Porcupine Tree etc.? Maybe even involve Steven Wilson, Gavin Harrison, Joe Barresi, Danny Carey et all in the process.

this would mean extra money extra time and extra effeort that has to be spent. it's rather easier to take the same old samples and remix them again and again...and again and again...
TT really fucked it up IMHO, i am still using S2 but i won't buy anything from them again...maybe S3 but i doubt that this will come soon.

 

[Machinated]

Instead of re-packaged and re-mixed stuff, how about a good Progressive Rock EZX/SDX inspired by the drum tones of Tool, Porcupine Tree etc.? Maybe even involve Steven Wilson, Gavin Harrison, Joe Barresi, Danny Carey et all in the process.

Err you heard of evil drums?

In absentia was recorded in avatar studios so one of those packs will be useful, C&V would also be great for prog stuff too. I'd say prog is pretty well covered unless you're looking for a bazillion toms/octobans etc.

 

[Habsburgs]

it's rather easier to take the same old samples and remix them again and again...and again and again...
TT really fucked it up IMHO, i am still using S2 but i won't buy anything from them again...maybe S3 but i doubt that this will come soon.

wait, you think these are the same ezdrummer samples remixed?

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

It's a repackage. SUPER LAME.

 

[FIXXXER]

wait, you think these are the same ezdrummer samples remixed?

not particularly EZ samples but definitively samples that were recorded previously and remixed later. TT has a large sample pool so it's obvious,
well at least cheaper than to record new sample for every new EZX

 

[Alphanumeric]

This is poor, the High And Dry Kit sounded alright, but on everything else the muffled boomy kick and ringy snare, bright cymbals .. its like the antithesis of 80's rock.

Don't we already have Rock Solid whic is again pretty, meh, apart from a snare or 4 haha

 

[superfreak]

I actually dig Rock Solid a lot.

 

[D20]

I actually dig Rock Solid a lot.

Ditto. I thought Rock Solid was pretty awesome.

 

[Jind]

not particularly EZ samples but definitively samples that were recorded previously and remixed later. TT has a large sample pool so it's obvious,
well at least cheaper than to record new sample for every new EZX

As far as I've always understood, all EZX libraries are processed samples from recording sessions for SDX libraries, even if the EZX happens to be released first.

An example of this would be the Jazz EZX came out years before the Roots SDX, but both are from the same Blackbird studio sessions. The Nashville EZX came out before the Music City USA SDX from the Sound Kitchen studio sessions. You can see it in almost every EZX/SDX relationship. In many cases multiple EZX packages will come out of a particular studio session - just with different processing.

Expecting an EZX to be all new samples is really just not understanding how Toontrack works it's product lines.

 

[Alphanumeric]

Ditto. I thought Rock Solid was pretty awesome.

The snares and cymbals/room definitely are!

Toms aren't nearly over the top enough for the kind of Rock the box suggests, same with the Kick,

too flat and radio rock.

 

[RaNk]

this would mean extra money extra time and extra effeort that has to be spent. it's rather easier to take the same old samples and remix them again and again...and again and again...
TT really fucked it up IMHO, i am still using S2 but i won't buy anything from them again...maybe S3 but i doubt that this will come soon.

I think the same. Then again, S2 hardly gets any attention anymore. Seems they're really focussing on all the EZ stuff. If re-using is where it's at, I'd prefer more if they could bring out an SDX using raw samples from the Metal Machine sessions.

 

[Machinated]

As far as I've always understood, all EZX libraries are processed samples from recording sessions for SDX libraries, even if the EZX happens to be released first.

An example of this would be the Jazz EZX came out years before the Roots SDX, but both are from the same Blackbird studio sessions. The Nashville EZX came out before the Music City USA SDX from the Sound Kitchen studio sessions. You can see it in almost every EZX/SDX relationship. In many cases multiple EZX packages will come out of a particular studio session - just with different processing.

Expecting an EZX to be all new samples is really just not understanding how Toontrack works it's product lines.

its true for some EZX's but not all.

AFAIK the classic, metal machine, indie folk, rock solid and possibly the blues are all their own sessions. they are more scaled down, doubt they'll intend to release any of them as SDX's.