Has anyone here tried to ahve this conversation with a "Nu Metal" fan? It always ends in them calling you "closed minded" out of anger. I was trying to explain to a guy one time why "Disturbed" is extremely lame, dumbed down, plastic metal for people who drive big Dodge trucks with a Godsmack sticker on the back and sport a "Tribal Tattoo". The reaction was "You fuckin Puritan metal heads are all the same, always making fun of something that's great because it's not underground death metal.". That's so not true. Try to get a guy like that (who would go see Korn live) to appreciate, and like Opeth.